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<body>I'm generally fine with both. Most recently I tried the GitLab CI features at work and I found that that yml syntax for GitLab CI/CD pipelines seems easier/ more straightforward when learning it ... compared to Jenkins Groovy pipelines.<br>
Jenkins is probably overall more flexible with all the plugins available, but the learning curve is steeper.<br>
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Just my two cents.<br>
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I could help with both, Jenkins or GitLab.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Tobias<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 20. Januar 2020 21:11:19 MEZ schrieb "Troy A. Griffitts" <scribe@crosswire.org>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<p>Thanks Tobias,</p>
<p>I don't have a preferred CI tool. Greg has volunteered to own
CrossWire's stable branch release management and CI maintenance
and works with Jenkins daily at his work with Red Hat, which I am
sure influences his decision when choosing a tool. He's the
pumpkin holder and is the one who will work regularly with the
tools so the choice is up to him. I have seen on the menus the
builtin CI options in GitLab but haven't tried them. We also use
Jenkins for CI and GitLab for source control at Ericsson where I
spend my day hours. Not sure why our devops have decided to not
use the builtin GitLab CI features. Maybe historical.<br>
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<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/26/19 1:04 PM, Tobias Klein
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We could alternatively
also use the CI-functionality built into GitLab! Then we
don’t have to set up a separate service with Jenkins.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<br>
Tobias<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0cm"><b>From:
</b><a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Greg Hellings</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Donnerstag, 26. Dezember 2019 20:40<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">SWORD Developers' Collaboration
Forum</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.9.x [was: NA28]</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can we get our heads together to get
Jenkins setup in the new infrastructure? With the current
system setup, it should be easier to keep that system
running.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 12:51 Troy A.
Griffitts <<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" moz-do-not-send="true">scribe@crosswire.org</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p>Hi Tobias,</p>
<p>Technically, the functionality was added to trunk here:</p>
<p>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
r3614 | scribe | 2018-12-29 14:23:25 -0700 (Sat, 29 Dec
2018) | 1 line<br>
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Added personalization mechanism for cipher keys</p>
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<p>Having said that, it is time for a new release.
Hunting for that commit, I can see we have done quite a
few things over 2019, which is great, but we need to
push things out now as an official release. Rather than
worry about binary-breaking changes, it should be easier
to push out 1.9.0 with all the latest changes.</p>
<p>Let's all try to wrap this up in the first couple weeks
of the new year. I'll be sure to commit over the next
couple days any binary-breaking changes I have in the
pipeline and we can all test trunk and confirm we are
happy with it for our projects.</p>
<p>Merry Christmas!!!</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/26/19 6:14 AM, Tobias Klein
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Troy!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Merry Christmas!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">What’s the minimum Sword version for
using NA28?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’ve
just tried with a local 1.8.1 build and got the
following error message when trying to get text from
the installed module:</p>
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corrupt data during decompression.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Once
using the latest trunk it works.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best
regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Tobias</p>
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</b><a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Troy A.
Griffitts</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sonntag, 1. Dezember 2019 00:53<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">SWORD
Developers' Collaboration Forum</a>; <a href="mailto:jsword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jsword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[sword-devel] NA28</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hey
team,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
am happy to announce that after 21 years of
negotiations, the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Nestle-Aland
Greek New Testament is finally available for SWORD</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">applications,
sold directly from the German Bible Society. The
purchase</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">page
is initially only available in German, so you may
need to let</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Chrome
help you translate to make the purchase. They have
honored their</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">word
and because we have done all the work to convert
their data and</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">take
no royalty they only charge 10€ for the SWORD
module. They also</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">allow
the module to be used in all of our apps, so it's a
great</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">advantage
for our users to buy once and use on their multiple
platforms,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">devices,
and applications.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">For
those that don't know, the Nestle-Aland Greek New
Testament is the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">standard
text which most all seminary students are required
to purchase</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">for
their studies and shares the same Greek text as the
United Bible</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Societies'
Greek New Testament used by the majority of Bible
translators</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">worldwide,
but the Nestle-Aland edition includes an extended
critical</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">apparatus.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If
you have a separate project page or forum for your
frontend</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">community,
please let your users know and please support the
work of the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">German
Bible Society and encourage them to make more of
their resources</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">available
for our software by purchasing a copy for yourself.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
module includes the variant apparatus for each
applicable verse as a</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">footnote
at the end of the verse, which should facilitate the
module to</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">show
reasonably well in most frontends. Bishop has a bit
of custom code</p>
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handle the apparatus a bit more nicely and allows
clicking on the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">apparatus
to jump to INTF manuscript features.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">JSword
may need to include the updated encipher code to
support the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">module
before JSword frontends will work properly.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Luc
Herren, who previously worked for the INTF, pushed
years ago to get</p>
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Nestle-Aland critical apparatus sign into the
Unicode</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">specification,
so there is a good chance that some font on most
devices</p>
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have the required glyphs. I include GentiumPlus
with Bishop, which</p>
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can confirm has all the symbols for the critical
apparatus.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
module .conf file now includes:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">UnlockInfo=Please
visit the online store of the German Bible Society
to</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">purchase
an unlock key: <a</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">href=<a href="https://www.die-bibel.de/shop/bibelausgaben/digitale-bibelausgaben/dvds-und-videos/na28-app-lizenzschluessel-0106" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">"https://www.die-bibel.de/shop/bibelausgaben/digitale-bibelausgaben/dvds-und-videos/na28-app-lizenzschluessel-0106"</a>>NA28</p>
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SWORD Module</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If
your frontend doesn't yet support the new UnlockInfo
property, please</p>
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adding support to help users know how to obtain
unlock keys</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">when
installing locked modules.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
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for those who</p>
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