<html><head></head><body>Right. We need someone willing to spend time in the problem locale files. Bishop gets all its display information from SWORD for Bible book names and preferred abbreviations, and those all come from SWORD's locale files.<br><br>I used to push back on locale file which, from a first glance didn't look well developed, but I have given up pushing back and have been committing as these keep getting sent to me. My reasoning is that the language much be important enough to the repeating submitter and thus if/when it doesn't work well, they hopefully will be motivated to fix the problem.<br><br>I would think someone else who understands SWORD locale files could fix the issues, even without language fluency.<br><br>If you or anyone else feels compelled to track down the deficiencies in the locale files and correct them, I am happy to apply any patches.<br><br>Troy<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On January 20, 2020 2:12:06 PM MST, David Haslam <dfhdfh@protonmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Troy,<caret></caret></div><div><br></div><div>For some locales, the book abbreviation displayed with the chapter selector does not always match the book abbreviation for the book selector.</div><div><br></div><div>This needs fixing.</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile</div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 19:16, Troy A. Griffitts <<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" class="">scribe@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite">
<p>I suspect the issue is that Bishop used the new [Pref Abbrev]
section which lets a locale author pick what is the preferred
short abbreviation for a book in that language. The issue we've
had in the past is that some of the preferred abbreviations chosen
are not actually valid abbreviations for that book, as defined in
the [Book Abbrevs] section which tells our parser how to to
interpret book names.<br>
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<p>Troy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/20 12:11 PM, David Haslam
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<div>There are also serious navigation issues when the Latvian
locale is selected.</div>
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<div>Are these locale related issues unique to the Bishop
front-end?</div>
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<div>Have we ever seen similar issues reported for other SWORD
based front-ends?</div>
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<div>What’s unique about Bishop as regards handling Latvian,
Polish or Slovenian book abbreviations?</div>
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<div>Testing just now is not exhaustive - done merely on a sample
of languages and books.</div>
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<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 19:02, David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" class="">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div>Troy,</div>
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<div>I just tried the Polish locale in Bishop for iOS.</div>
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<div>It doesn’t work very well. </div>
<div>With KJV selected as module, the behaviour for selecting
some books is quite erratic.</div>
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<div>It requires a more detailed investigation.</div>
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<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 18:53, David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" class="">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div>Thanks Troy,</div>
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<div>Yes - it must be the Slovenian locale.</div>
<div>When I select Slovenian as the app language - the same
thing occurs in iOS as Marjan reported for Android OS.</div>
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<div>We therefore need a correction to that particular locale
file.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>David</div>
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 18:45, Troy A. Griffitts <<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" class="">scribe@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:
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<p>Hi David and others,</p>
<p>I replied to Marjan directly-- not why or how he sent his
question to my email address directly, but apparently he
BCC'd you. Regardless, my reply is attached. I suspect
you don't see the issue because you are using a different
locale and I suspect the Slovenian locale is the issue. I
haven't received a reply, so maybe someone else with the
time and possibly Slovenian language knowledge could have
a look.</p>
<p>Thank you for following up,</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/20 1:34 AM, David
Haslam wrote:<br>
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<div>Bishop 1.3.4 for iOS does not have the problem with
selecting Lamentations for the KJV module. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is there a typo the Bishop source code for AndroidOS
? </div>
<div>eg In the Lamentations bookname or abbreviation as
sent to SWORD. </div>
<div>That might account for the errant behaviour. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David</div>
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 06:33, Marjan Šavli <<a href="mailto:marjan.savli@gmail.com" class="">marjan.savli@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Hello!</div>
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<div>Do you have same problem?</div>
<div>Did I use right address to report a problem?<br>
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Date: V pet., 10. jan. 2020 ob 02:32<br>
Subject: Bishop 1.3.4 Android, Sword 1.8.900<br>
To: Troy Griffitts <<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org">scribe@crosswire.org</a>><br>
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<div>Hello!<br>
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<div>I use Bishop 1.3.4 Android, Sword 1.8.900,
KJV - King James Version (1769) with Strong...
module<br>
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<div>1. When I want to read
Lamentations (any chapter)
it opens me Revelation 1.</div>
<div>If I go from Jer 52 to
next chapter it opens me Rev
1.</div>
<div> If I go from Ezek 1 to
previous chapter it opens me
Rev 1. </div>
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<div>2.When module (e.g.
SLOKJV) does not contain
chosen book, it brings
message: Nothing to diplay -
this is not translated yet.
In Slovenian ther should be
"Ničesar ni za prikazati"<br>
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Thank you, Marjan. It sounds like we have some issues with
our Slovenian locale. You could help us, if you have time. I
would love a native speaker to have a look.<br>
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The SWORD locale is located here:<br>
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<a href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/sl-utf8.conf">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/sl-utf8.conf</a><br>
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You'll find 2 sections which are important. First, the [Book
Abbrevs] section gives definitions to our parser. These
should be in uppercase. Next, the [Pref Abbrevs] section
which define what the user would like to see as the
preferred abbreviation and what is shown in the select box
in Bishop should look the way user expects, in mixed case.
Finally each Pref Abbrev needs to have an entry in the Book
Abbrevs which it would match without concerning case, and
the match needs to only be initial part, e.g. a Pref Abbrev
of "1 Jo" will match a Book Abbrev of "1 JOHN" so it would
not be necessary to also add a "1 JO".<br>
<br>
My guess is that the books which send you to Revelation
don't have entries in [Book Abbrevs] which allow our parser
to understand the preferred abbreviation.<br>
<br>
If you'd like to have a look and let us know any changes you
think we should make anywhere in the locale file, we would
appreciate the help as also I am sure other Slovenian
speakers.<br>
<br>
Also, the Bishop UI locales and template are located here:<br>
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<a href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/tree/master/www/bundledResources/uilocales.d">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/tree/master/www/bundledResources/uilocales.d</a><br>
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Thank you again for the report and any help you might give,<br>
<br>
Troy<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On January 9, 2020 6:32:18 PM MST,
"Marjan Šavli" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marjan.savli@gmail.com"><marjan.savli@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<div>Hello!<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I use Bishop 1.3.4 Android, Sword 1.8.900, KJV -
King James Version (1769) with Strong... module<br>
</div>
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<div>1. When I want to read
Lamentations (any chapter) it
opens me Revelation 1.</div>
<div>If I go from Jer 52 to next
chapter it opens me Rev 1.</div>
<div>
If I go from Ezek 1 to previous
chapter it opens me Rev 1.
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2.When module (e.g. SLOKJV)
does not contain chosen book, it
brings message: Nothing to diplay
- this is not translated yet. In
Slovenian ther should be "Ničesar
ni za prikazati"<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
------------ Marjan
----------<br>
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<div> e-mail: <a href="mailto:marjan.savli@gmail.com">marjan.savli@gmail.com</a><br>
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