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My question was related to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://tracker.crosswire.org/browse/MOD-354">MOD-354</a>, <a
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href="https://tracker.crosswire.org/browse/MOD-356">MOD-356</a>.
The second is easy to solved, if the source are accessible.<br>
Maybe it can be moved to our gitlab repo? It will be easier for the
collaboration.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 15/11/2019 à 12:35, Michael H a
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style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Deprecated
indicates that new development won't follow this method, but
current instances are maintained to provide the widest
compatibility. I'm not aware this has been made obsolete,
which would indicate it is no longer supported and will break
the display or program. Until it is made Obsolete, I would
recommend it be supported, since a rather large user base is
currently using it. (Ubuntu LTS is the preferred desktop for
Bible translation teams in East Africa, SE Asia and Latin
America in the SIL, Wycliffe Bible translators, and to a
lesser extent SEED company and Biblica.) </div>
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What would the presence of the OSISqToTick parameter in a conf
file mean to more recent desktops? will they ignore it, or
will it produce bad results?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:53
AM David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>IIRC, the <span
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">OSISqToTick
key was deprecated some years ago. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br>
</span></div>
<font size="4" face="garamond, serif">I think the problem is
that CrossWire failed to release KJVA module version 3.1 in
February 2017. </font>
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</font></div>
<div><font size="4" face="garamond, serif">On my PC this was
made as a module named KJVAX and was rebuilt completely
from KJV & KJVDC source files. The X in the module
name is simply so that I could also retain the released
module KJVA. </font></div>
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</font></div>
<div><font size="4" face="garamond, serif">Pretty certain that
this was put to DM at the time. <br>
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<div><font size="4" face="garamond, serif">NB. </font></div>
<div><font size="4" face="garamond, serif">It would seem
that BibleTime is ignoring the attribute marker=“” in
the OSIS q elements. That’s a software issue that needs
fixing. <br>
</font>
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<div><span
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">David</span></div>
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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 16:23, Michael H <<a
href="mailto:cmahte@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">cmahte@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">correction,
the version is Bibletime 2.11.1, not 2.11.3. <br>
<br>
The KJVA module conf file contains the
line "OSISqToTick=false". I believe this is the
cause of the missing quotations. I think Bibletime
is correctly displaying the quotes in modules as
defined by OSIS, where most frontends just ignore
this configuration, and remove the quotations on all
WOJ. But I'm really out of my depth here. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019
at 10:17 AM Michael H <<a
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style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I
see them in bibletime 2.11.3 for Linux (Ubuntu
18.04LTS) built on Sword 1.7.3. This is the
default edition that comes in the apps<span
style="font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>provided
by the current stable Ubuntu edition. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">In
a 3 column view with the modules listed,
engKJV1769eb, KJV, and KJVA; only the KJVA
displays silent transitions. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 15,
2019 at 10:01 AM David Haslam <<a
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<div>Michael,</div>
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<div>The CrossWire KJV module should not and does
not display quotation marks in either Xiphos
or PocketSword & probably all SWORD based
front-end apps. </div>
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<div>If you see quotation marks at Words of
Jesus transitions, might this be a failure of
some apps not correctly implementing the
attribute marker=“” in rendering the OSIS q
element?</div>
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<div>Which apps have such an issue?</div>
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<div>David</div>
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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 15:49, Michael H <<a
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style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I
suspect starting from the KJVA module is
the correct approach for you Cyrille. The
engKJV1769eb module is present to make the
text available in the other formats (web
browser, epub, kindle formats.) It is not
intended to be a source text. However, the
conversion to all these formats
reprocesses the text and introduces some
quirks. <br>
<br>
The Crosswire KJV module is not identical
to the engKJV1769eb module. <br>
<br>
1. The ebible module does not contain
Chapter titles, while the KJV and KJVA
modules do. <br>
2. The ebible module has more white space
between features (pilcrows have trailing
spaces, Words of Jesus transitions
introduce an extra space, etc.) These are
not present in the KJV and KJVA modules. <br>
3. Both the ebible and KJV module display
quotation marks where the Words of Jesus
transitions occur. This is not present in
the source text, but is apparently a quirk
of OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or
the conf file.) However, the KJVA module
does NOT contain these quotations which is
more appropriate. Yet it lists the same
source as the KJV module. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri,
Nov 15, 2019 at 8:19 AM Cyrille <<a
href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam
a écrit :<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> AFAIK, The OSIS
XML files that eBible.org uses for the
engKJV1769eb module are not those that
either I or DM used for the CrossWire
KJV & KJVA modules. <br>
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<span lang="en"><span title="">I have
the feeling again that we are
wasting a mad energy by the
dispersion of sources and parallel
works.</span> <span title="">Two
"identical" modules developed from
two sources...</span></span>
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<div>I’ve really not looked in detail
at how Michael Johnson maintains his
modules with Haiola. <br>
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<div>David<br>
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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57,
Cyrille <<a
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target="_blank"
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wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"> Thank you
Peter,<br>
I look in the conf file:<br>
TextSource=<a
href="http://bf.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bf.org</a>,
eBible.org...<br>
eBible.org is ok<br>
And eBible.org is working, but
how to do if we want to work on
it? <span lang="en"><span
title=""><span lang="en"><span
title="">At the same
time I discover that
ebible is an excellent
resource that stores
bibles in usfm and osis
formats.</span></span></span></span><br>
David, <span lang="en"><span
title="">is your file
different from ebible?</span></span><span
lang="en"><span title=""><br>
Maybe a link to the <a
href="http://ebible.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ebible.org</a>
(I could only download the
usfm file) on wiki would be
useful.<br>
<br>
</span></span> <br>
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<div>Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27,
David Haslam a écrit :<br>
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<div>Strictly speaking, it’s
maintained by DM Smith
- though I did some
significant work on the
source text in 2016 in
collaboration with DM. </div>
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<div>I still keep such
KJV files on my PC too. </div>
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<div>The wiki includes a
roadmap for further
potential enhancements. </div>
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On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17,
Peter Von Kaehne <<a
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<div>Hi Cyrille,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am not on my
computer, but I think
the link to the source
text is both in the
conf file and
accessible via the
WIki.</div>
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<div>Peter</div>
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<div
style="margin:0px
0px 10px"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag,
15. November 2019
um 03:26 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Cyrille"
<a
href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com"
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<b>An:</b> "SWORD
Developers'
Collaboration
Forum" <a
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><sword-devel@crosswire.org></a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [sword-devel]
KJV with strong
numbers</div>
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<div
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Hello,<br>
I red that the
KJV with
strong's numbers
is a <a
href="http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">crosswire project</a>, I'm just
looking for
where can I
found the osis
source text of
this module?<br>
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