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<p>Dear Fr. Cyrille,</p>
<p>Comments inline below.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/12/19 12:45 AM, Cyrille wrote:<br>
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Troy, why don't you not put bishop on the open gitlab (or git
permission on git.crosswire?)? It would be very easier to help
you with git...<br>
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<p>I am not sure I understand. We do have Bishop on our gitlab
server:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/</a></p>
<p><br>
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cite="mid:3b8e78f0-a141-951a-c3d2-4fd08d989d4e@gmail.com"> For
Sword I have also a question. How to automatically know if new
files are added? I propose an it-utf8.conf, already merge in <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d</a>,
but I also propose later an update very important for the
fr-utf8.conf and it-utf8.conf, but it is not yet merged with the
source.<br>
If you have all on git I can propose a merge request and for you
it is easier to merge (it or not). And I can automatically follow
the progress of the work.<br>
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<p>SWORD authoritative repo is still SVN. For updates, you can
subscribe to: <a
href="http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-cvs">http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-cvs</a></p>
<p>archives: <a
href="http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-cvs/">http://www.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-cvs/</a></p>
<p>The primary reason I haven't switched this yet is that we have
many people with access to various parts of that repo. Some can
modify tests, some the build system, some filters, only a few can
modify the core lib source, etc. I don't want to control all the
merge requests to that repository. People have been delegated the
authority to manage their parts of the tree and have full write
permissions. I get emails when people commit and can view their
diffs in the emails. I regularly review what is committed and
comment if I feel the need. I don't have a good solution for this
access management with git. I know how git would suggest I do
it. Let everyone fork, modify their fork, and submit pull
requests. But then I become the bottleneck if I don't merge in a
timely fashion, and also I have to remember who has access to
what, "Should this person have permission to change this or
that." With SVN we have an access file which contains groups of
files named appropriately and we grant contributes full write
access to the level and portions we are comfortable letting them
have full write access to those portions of the authoritative
repository.</p>
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cite="mid:3b8e78f0-a141-951a-c3d2-4fd08d989d4e@gmail.com"> <br>
Last question: is it possible to use a unique conf file, with
books, preferred abbreviations, and book abbreviations together?<br>
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<p>I am not sure I understand your question.</p>
<p>The _abbrev.conf files in the source should probably be retired
now that we have a proper [Pref Abbrevs] section in the locale
file. I can see a use for these possibly if, e.g., a user is
using a desktop app but on a very small screen and wants the full
book names to also be short.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 12/06/2019 09:16, Troy A.
Griffitts ha scritto:<br>
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<p>Johan,</p>
<p>Certainly! I would love to add an Afrikaans translation.
Thank you for considering.<br>
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<p>The short files to be translated follow:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf</a><br>
(entire file)<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf</a><br>
(PLEASE NOTE: in this last file, only the [Pref Abbrevs]
section for<br>
Bible book abbreviations is needed. Please do not spend time<br>
translating this entire file. We have this file already
translated for<br>
most languages, only the [Pref Abbrevs] section is new, which
adds the<br>
preferred Bible book abbreviations to each language. This is
the only<br>
section we need)</p>
<p>Troy</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/11/19 1:54 AM, Johan wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Good morning,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Is there a need for
an Afrikaans translation, maybe I can assist?<br>
Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Johan Marais</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> David Haslam <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><dfhdfh@protonmail.com></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 11 June 2019 10:09<br>
<b>To:</b> SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><sword-devel@crosswire.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [sword-devel] Translators Needed, Any
Language<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">Dear Troy,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">It may
well be the case that there are translators that some of
us have contact with but who are not subscribed to this
list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">This is
likely to be so for those of us whose main focus is on
text development with a view to module creation as one
of the ultimate goals.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">A lot of
the detailed work involved in such activities is done
“off grid” (as it were) through direct personal email
correspondence.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">For
example, I could ask if Brent Riggs would be willing to
translate these text items into Polish.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">He’s our
main contact for the module PolUgdanska.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">I’m sure
similar examples could be multiplied.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">David<o:p></o:p></p>
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from ProtonMail Mobile<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">On Sun, Jun
9, 2019 at 21:32, Troy A. Griffitts <<a
href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">scribe@crosswire.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt">We're
wrapping up a new release of an app now
internationalized. <br>
Officially we now have support for:<br>
<br>
French<br>
German<br>
Spanish<br>
Portuguese<br>
<br>
If anyone can translate into another language and would
like to get<br>
their language into this release, the short files to be
translated follow:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop/raw/master/i18n-template.conf</a><br>
(entire file)<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/locales.d/fr-utf8.conf</a><br>
(PLEASE NOTE: in this last file, only the [Pref Abbrevs]
section for<br>
Bible book abbreviations is needed. Please do not spend
time<br>
translating this entire file. We have this file already
translated for<br>
most languages, only the [Pref Abbrevs] section is new,
which adds the<br>
preferred Bible book abbreviations to each language.
This is the only<br>
section we need)<br>
<br>
Translation work simply entails translating each line,
after the '='<br>
sign to your language.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you for considering,<br>
<br>
Troy<br>
<br>
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