<div dir="auto">I'm pretty sure that verse numbers are exclusively the purview of front ends and aren't part of the engine markup.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--Greg</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 5, 2019, 15:29 David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div>No - although a front-end would include the UI option to “Copy Special”,</div><div>IMHO, the right place for the special filter would be the back-end engine.</div><div><br></div><div>It’s the back-end that “knows” which object is a verse tag, </div><div>as opposed to verse text that just happens to contain some digits.</div><div>Eg. The integer 144,000 in Revelation 7:4 for some translations.</div><div><br></div><div>No front-end developer is obliged to make use of the suggested filter.</div><div>But it gives them a design choice that can be exploited to advantage in the described usage case.</div><div><br></div><div>In Xiphos, for example, the dialogue would simply require an extra tick box with (say) a mouseover tooltip.</div><div><br></div><div> Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div><div id="m_-6745686258296855953protonmail_mobile_signature_block">Sent from ProtonMail Mobile</div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 21:08, <a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">refdoc@gmx.net</a> <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">refdoc@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="m_-6745686258296855953protonmail_quote" type="cite"> I think the main problem is that there is a whole huge worlds out there of weird and wonderful restrictions. Some blogging platforms accept wiki mark up, others markdown yet others restricted html, etc. <br><br>I do not think the engine is the place other than for well defined standardised output formats, as much of the rest ephemeral. But front-ends maybe can do more?<br><br>Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.<div class="m_-6745686258296855953quote" style="line-height:1.5"><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Sword front-ends, the clipboard and social media<br>From: David Haslam <br>To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <br>CC: <br><br><br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_-6745686258296855953quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div>Jack,</div><div><br></div><div>I think you’ve missed the main point too.</div><div><br></div><div>Facebook edit boxes for posts, comments and replies sees everything pasted as plain vanilla text.</div><div>Text styles are simply squished.</div><div><br></div><div>However, being a global platform, it supports the whole Unicode character set.</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div><div id="m_-6745686258296855953protonmail_mobile_signature_block">Sent from ProtonMail Mobile</div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 20:14, Jaak Ristioja <<a href="mailto:jaak@ristioja.ee" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jaak@ristioja.ee</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="m_-6745686258296855953protonmail_quote" type="cite"> I'd suggest using CSS with custom element attributes instead, for example:<br><br><html><head><br><title>Hallelujah! :)</title><br><style><br>span::before {<br> content: attr(verse-id);<br> vertical-align: super;<br> font-size: 50%;<br> margin: 0 0.4em 0 0;<br>}<br></style><br></head><br><body><br><span verse-id='12'>Christ</span><br><span verse-id='13'>is</span><br><span verse-id='14'>risen!</span><br></body><br></html><br><br>Online example: <a href="https://jsfiddle.net/23z5n9dc/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://jsfiddle.net/23z5n9dc/</a><br><br><br>Best regards,<br>J<br><br><br>On 05.05.19 18:58, David Haslam wrote:<br>> When pasting a Bible passage from the clipboard to Social media, text styles are usually squished.<br>><br>> This often means that superscripted verse tags just become ordinary numbers.<br>> Some front-ends even leave no space between the verse tag and the start of verse text.<br>> The result in social media is a tad ugly.<br>><br>> Surely we could do better?<br>><br>> One bright idea implemented externally by one of our members is simple enough for us to consider adding as a new filter in the SWORD API.<br>><br>> Convert verse number digits to Unicode superscript digits, ⁰¹²³⁴⁵⁶⁷⁸⁹<br>><br>> NB. These special 10 characters are not in a continuous block.<br>><br>> How front-ends might include the filter such that copying a passage to the clipboard would automatically make use of these special characters is yet to be determined, but if the idea is not yet discussed, we’ll not make any progress.<br>><br>> Aside: I made my own TextPipe filter to convert digits to these special characters.<br>> I included a restriction to avoid converting chapter numbers.<br>> I did not yet consider what to do about digits that are part of verse text (such as 144,000).<br>><br>> Even so, how do software developers feel about the concept ?<br>><br>> Best regards,<br>><br>> David<br>><br>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile<br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br>> <a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br>><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br>Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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