<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The problem of a table per row is that cell widths may vary from one row to the next.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In Him,</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>DM<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 19, 2019, at 3:15 AM, <a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" class="">refdoc@gmx.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">I think Michael's advice might be sound. <br class=""><br class="">Which texts are set in this way?<br class=""><br class="">I presume stuff like the population counts in Exodus etc? Or genealogy?<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.<div class="quote" style="line-height: 1.5"><br class=""><br class="">-------- Original Message --------<br class="">Subject: Re: [sword-devel] OSIS files with Tables and Nesting warnings from osis2mod<br class="">From: Michael H <cmahte@gmail.com class=""><br class="">To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel@crosswire.org class=""><br class="">CC: <br class=""><br class=""><br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">In usfm, and paratext, each row of a table is independent. That is, several separate "paragraphs" that start \tr are displayed in a grid form, but each row (\tr) is treated separately. <br class=""><br class="">As you approach 'tables' in OSIS, I think you'll find that you won't have a problem if you consider this the same way, each row is it's own table. </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 4:54 PM DM Smith <<a href="mailto:dmsmith@crosswire.org" class="">dmsmith@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">When ever a non-milestonable construct is not wholly contained in a verse, it will not work as a SWORD module in all contexts.<div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">From a module perspective, a verse is what is stored as a verse. It includes all the content between what we know as verses, such as titles, sections, paragraphs.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Basic reason is that modules are verse oriented. Each verse has to be able to display in isolation. When a verse is not well formed XML, then it cannot.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We recommend that authors of OSIS see the major constructs of a module to be Books, Chapters, Sections and Paragraphs, expressed as containers. And that verses are milestoned.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">osis2mod will reverse this and complain where it cannot.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Anything that converts a different format to OSIS has to work around this limitation. osis2mod will tell when it is not so.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One way around this is to have the osisID be for multiple verses and that contain the construct.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Another way is for the converter to throw away the “offending” construct and just keep the content. That’s what JSword does on a verse by verse basis.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In Him,</div><div class=""><span class="gmail-m_8513455671888789849Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>DM</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 18, 2019, at 5:34 PM, David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank" class="">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_8513455671888789849Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""> <div class="">Thanks DM.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sound advice if you were speaking to a translator but it’s not as if any of us are. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The context is preparing the text for building a SWORD module for a modern translation done by a third party. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We’re not at liberty to change the SFM markup already provided. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We have to deal with things as they are; not with how we’d like them to be. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And the tables markup is in the USFM. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div id="gmail-m_8513455671888789849protonmail_mobile_signature_block" class="">Sent from ProtonMail Mobile</div> <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 22:04, DM Smith <<a href="mailto:dmsmith@crosswire.org" target="_blank" class="">dmsmith@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail-m_8513455671888789849protonmail_quote" type="cite"> Don’t do it. Tables are often used for presentation when they shouldn’t. Tables should be used for tabular data.<br class=""><br class="">Basically, nothing should start or end within a verse that is not milestoned or able to be converted to a milestone.<br class=""><br class="">In Him,<br class=""> DM<br class=""><br class="">> On Feb 18, 2019, at 10:39 AM, David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" target="_blank" class="">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">> Dear all,<br class="">><br class="">> Ryan V wrote about a Bible we're looking at for module build.<br class="">><br class="">>> As for the nesting errors, I haven't look at all of them yet. But the ones I did look at have verses starting inside a table, and then ending outside of a table. It's not possible to fix the nesting errors that osis2mod reports in that situation.<br class="">><br class="">> Now this is rather odd, seeing as ParaTExt/USFM is quite happy for a table in which the above happens.<br class="">><br class="">> What advice is there from SWORD developers about how to proceed?<br class="">><br class="">> Must we simply accept the warnings, and just accept the consequences?<br class="">><br class="">> Best regards,<br class="">><br class="">> David<br class="">><br class="">> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class="">> <a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" target="_blank" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" target="_blank" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">
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