<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">All, <br><br>Thank you all for the replies. <br><br>Summary as far as I can see: <br><br>The discussion herein has resulted in these assumptions: <br>1. a general consensus that audio (and video) should be formatted as links within the sword directory just like images. <br>2. a gentleman's agreement to not host works directly on Crosswire until all front ends support the module. <br><br>If these these assumptions are a good representation of the current status : </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">1. Is there any formalized directory structure or file structure within a module directory that represents the 'right' way to build the links to a local file downloaded within the module? That is, a best method example to follow (with associated OSIS file) available? I know of several final modules full of images, but without doing a lot of experimenting, I don't know which module is the best to mimic. <br><br>2. Do any front ends currently support audio or video links either autoplay or manual play? <br><br>3. Is there a possibility to create an AV repository within the Sword universe? That is, a way to segregate works that are audio/video so that the sword format can support them without creating front end trouble? And in this I'm directly focused primarily on providing modules for AndBible in audio/video format, which implies the repo in question be available by normal download, but without breaking other front ends unless they wish to include those modules. This would allow the modules to start appearing without having to wait for all front ends to come online. <br><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 7:31 AM Tom Sullivan <<a href="mailto:info@beforgiven.info">info@beforgiven.info</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Jerry:<br>
<br>
Thank you. That was enlightening. It is regrettable that there is not <br>
correspondence between the vocal and written forms of the language. Must <br>
be tough for those involved.<br>
<br>
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On 1/21/19 7:11 PM, jhphx wrote:<br>
> It may be of interest to some that In any region the local sign language <br>
> probably has a different grammar than the spoken language(s). Different <br>
> sign language dialects may exist in a region with only one spoken <br>
> language. Different English speaking countries have different sign <br>
> languages even more than one in some countries. American Sign Language <br>
> (ASL) grammar is unrelated to that of English.<br>
> <br>
> The following examples from:<br>
> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Sign_Language_grammar" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Sign_Language_grammar</a><br>
> may be enlightening.<br>
> <br>
> '/My hair is wet/ is signed 'my hair wet'<br>
> <br>
> '/my name is Pete may be signed/ '[name my]TOPIC P-E-T-E'<br>
> <br>
> //'/my cat was chased by the dog'./ may be signed '/[MY CAT]^tm DOG CHASE//'<br>
> /<br>
> English: I don't have any dogs.<br>
> ASL: DOG I HAVE NONE/<br>
> <br>
> English: I don't like to play tennis.<br>
> ASL: TENNIS I LIKE PLAY NOT<br>
> <br>
> What did Juan buy yesterday?<br>
> //JUAN BUY YESTERDAY "WHAT"<br>
> /<br>
> //I love to eat pasta because I am Italian.<br>
> /PASTA I EAT ENJOY TRUE [WHY?]RHETORICAL, ITALIAN I.<br>
> <br>
> /Jerry<br>
> //<br>
> On 1/21/2019 1:33 PM, Greg Hellings wrote:<br>
>> For some individuals, they identify sign language as their primary <br>
>> language / mother "tongue". For such individuals, having a sign <br>
>> language Bible is important.<br>
>><br>
>> --Greg<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 14:30 Tom Sullivan <<a href="mailto:info@beforgiven.info" target="_blank">info@beforgiven.info</a> <br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:info@beforgiven.info" target="_blank">info@beforgiven.info</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Out of curiosity: Why put sign language for deaf on a screen when<br>
>> text<br>
>> is simpler?<br>
>><br>
>> Tom Sullivan<br>
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>> Jesus Christ became Man, was crucified, buried and rose from the dead<br>
>> as a substitute for all who trust in Him, redeeming them from Hell.<br>
>> If you repent (turn from your sin) and believe (trust) in Jesus<br>
>> Christ,<br>
>> you will go to Heaven. Otherwise you will go to Hell.<br>
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>> On 1/21/19 3:06 PM, <a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" target="_blank">refdoc@gmx.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" target="_blank">refdoc@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > You can use the same mechanism for adding images. We have a very<br>
>> > restricted set of file types we "support", but that as the support<br>
>> > offered is not really part of the engine, but handled by<br>
>> external file<br>
>> > handlers there is really no technical limit to what you can<br>
>> embed. The<br>
>> > limit is really in our convention not to distribute anything<br>
>> which would<br>
>> > not work on all platforms, at least I'm theory.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > More interesting though, and this is where we never made much<br>
>> progress<br>
>> > is whether it is possible to embed a sound file but pass on enough<br>
>> > information to allow playing individual verses only. We had several<br>
>> > years ago a discussion on all that on sword-devel. Look into the<br>
>> > archives for more info.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > The other development of course has been the ever improving<br>
>> provision of<br>
>> > TTS systems. These of course do not support many/any minority<br>
>> languages.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Peter<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird<br>
>> autocorrects.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > -------- Original Message --------<br>
>> > Subject: [sword-devel] Audio projects? (Video projects?)<br>
>> > From: Michael H<br>
>> > To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum<br>
>> > CC:<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > (<a href="http://gideons.bible.is/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://gideons.bible.is/</a>)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > This question is because I'm chasing a lead on ESV Gideons<br>
>> edition.<br>
>> > To clarify a bit: In 2013, Gideons International started<br>
>> publishing<br>
>> > Bibles based on the ESV that include revisions so the work<br>
>> conforms<br>
>> > closely to the Textus Receptus.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ESV2011 Matthew 6:13<br>
>> > And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.<br>
>> > Gideons Matthew 6:13<br>
>> > And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.<br>
>> For yours<br>
>> > in the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever, Amen.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > The problem I've run into is that the Gideons Bible App is<br>
>> > dysfunctional, and appears to be the only way to download the<br>
>> > ESV-Gideons text onto a mobile device. However, the Gideons<br>
>> app also<br>
>> > appears to be geared primarily to providing audio.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > So, as I'm asking about receiving the text, I'm also<br>
>> preparing to<br>
>> > field any questions about audio.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Audio and Video have come in and out of discussion regarding<br>
>> OSIS<br>
>> > and availability on the sword format, but it was always forward<br>
>> > looking. However, in today's environment it's more of a<br>
>> "now" issue<br>
>> > than ever. Does Sword (and OSIS) have a documented or<br>
>> recommended<br>
>> > way to handle audio (and video) in modules. Or a roadmap to<br>
>> getting<br>
>> > there? I'm speaking of audio scriptures and video scriptures for<br>
>> > deaf (sign language).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Is it be possible to get the sword platform to provide<br>
>> recorded audio?<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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