<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, PocketSword does things the unadvised way because initially it took forever to create a search index on a device when PS was first created. I haven’t tested things recently (in the past 5 years?), but I’m guessing any device from the last 3 years should be more than up to the task, and older devices are probably ok.</div><div class="">However, I haven’t had time to investigate, and I’m in the process of moving countries, so it won’t happen any time soon.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">PocketSword currently looks for a search index on the CW server. There are scripts that are run when Peter creates a new module that will create the index and upload it to the correct place. I used to manually run scripts to create them for the other official repos about once a month, but it has been a long time since that has happened. I investigated doing that for eBible, but due to the LARGE number of modules (yay!) and the rapid updating of them (also yay), creating an index for each version of each module would have not worked. You need a new index for a new version of a module, obviously, as the text _may_ have changed. (Sometimes a version number gets bumped because of a conf change.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Currently, the CW server is being migrated. I believe that is causing some issues for some of Peter’s scripts, so hopefully once the migration is completed, everything will be working swimmingly again?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">FYI: PS looks at the HTTP (well, HTTPS) mirror of the CW FTP server for all modules & downloads indices from <a href="https://www.crosswire.org/pocketsword/indices/v1/" class="">https://www.crosswire.org/pocketsword/indices/v1/</a></div><div class="">If you follow that link, you actually see that BlaMat-1.0.zip AND BlaMat-1.0.1.zip are available there, so it appears the indices are working for that module?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope that helps? Gotta run.</div><div class="">Nic. :)<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Dec 2018, at 9:04 am, Troy A. Griffitts <<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" class="">scribe@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">To chime in about PocketSword indexes, CrossWire does not officially support downloading pre-generated search indexes for our modules. SWORD, and thus PocketSword has the ability to generate the search indexes on the client, like every other SWORD frontend. PocketSword asked for disk space because they were pre-generating these for some reason at the start of their frontends and we accommodated. I am not sure who is maintaining PocketSword these days, but rather than asking all of our module repos to pre-generated search indexes for one of our frontends, I would suggest someone just change the PocketSword Download function to instead call the SWORD makeSearchIndex function.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Troy</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">On December 16, 2018 2:53:57 PM MST, "<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" class="">refdoc@gmx.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" class="">refdoc@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">No one is fobbing you off, David. Not answering on the mailing list is normal if you are not able to.help.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">There are two separate issues here. For one reason the indices I produce for CrossWire are sometimes visible and sometimes not. I am clueless why, but presume the two servers are the problem. I have not looked into that further due to.travel. dM gave me some hints.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">EBible is a separate matter. In short , this is Michael's repo and he needs to produce indices or find a way to produce them automatically.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Peter<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.<div class="quote" style="line-height: 1.5;"><br class=""><br class="">-------- Original Message --------<br class="">Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: BlaMat<br class="">From: David Haslam<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dfhdfh@protonmail.com class=""><br class="">To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><sword-devel@crosswire.org class=""><br class="">CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="">I keep pushing at this issue and I get fobbed off repeatedly. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">None of the <a href="http://eBible.org" class="">eBible.org</a> modules have an installable search index for PS. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Why is nobody seeking to fix this?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Where does PS look?</div><div class="">Which server?</div><div class="">Which path ?</div><div class="">What protocol?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Who maintains such a sync ?</div><div class="">Has it ever been tested ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The requirements are not transparent. </div><div class="">We ought to document them in our wiki. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If modules on the Xiphos repo do have a search index, why not <a href="http://eBible.org" class="">eBible.org</a> too?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block" class="">Sent from ProtonMail Mobile</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 21:32, <a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" class="">refdoc@gmx.net</a> <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" class="">refdoc@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite">I think the sync script runs only once every so often..<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.<div class="quote" style="line-height: 1.5;"><br class=""><br class="">-------- Original Message --------<br class="">Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: BlaMat<br class="">From: David Haslam<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><dfhdfh@protonmail.com class=""><br class="">To: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class="">CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="">Installed bla1890eb from <a href="http://eBible.org" class="">eBible.org</a> to PocketSword. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">No search index available!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is anyone working on providing all these for this repository? What’s the main stumbling block?</div><div class="">Where does PS look?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Still no Blackfoot language or equivalent found in CrossWire Main. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Peter - what’s making it invisible?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block" class="">Sent from ProtonMail Mobile</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 19:52, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <<a href="mailto:Kahunapule@eBible.org" class="">Kahunapule@eBible.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite">Thank you very much, David, for pointing out that there was a problem with the <a href="http://eBible.org" class="">eBible.org</a> repository. It turns out that the ftp server was failing to follow a symbolic link, probably due to a "security" update. (Yes, following symbolic links CAN be a security risk, but this was a breaking change that I wasn't aware of until just now.) Anyway, we are back in service. The Blackfoot Matthew module is listed under the language autonym (Siksika).<br class=""><br class="">On 12/16/18 9:01 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote:<br class="">> Aloha!<br class="">><br class="">> A Blackfoot Matthew module is in the <a href="http://eBible.org" class="">eBible.org</a> repository as bla1890eb, sourced from Jon Bitgood's digitization. (Duplication of Public Domain texts doesn't bother me, by the way, but it might be worth checking before working on a module if duplicated effort might bother you.)<br class="">><br class="">> I am trying to figure out what is going on with the <a href="http://eBible.org" class="">eBible.org</a> repository, right now. It looks like it is visible via ftp, http, and https, but refreshes on some front ends come up empty. Investigating...<br class="">><br class="">> On 12/16/18 7:28 AM, David Haslam wrote:<br class="">>> Thanks Peter. <br class="">>><br class="">>> I was aware of Jon Bitgood having several projects on GitHub. I’ve even commented on some of them during 2017.<br class="">>><br class="">>> Here’s my problem:<br class="">>> The language Blackfoot does not appear, nor does any unknown language code, looking at the CrossWire Main repo from PocketSword. And that’s after a contents refresh. <br class="">>><br class="">>> NB. Michael Johnson works closely with the Digital Bible Society. He knows Jon Bitgood. Are we potentially duplicating content that would ordinarily be hosted on the <a href="http://eBible.org" class="">eBible.org</a> rep?<br class="">>><br class="">>> Btw. It looks right now as though the <a href="http://eBible.org" class="">eBible.org</a> repo has become unavailable. Is this the case for all users? Hopefully, this is merely a temporary outage. <br class="">>><br class="">>> David<br class="">>><br class="">>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile<br class="">>><br class="">>><br class="">>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 16:19, Peter von Kaehne <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" class="">refdoc@gmx.net</a> <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" class="">mailto:refdoc@gmx.net</a>>> wrote:<br class="">>>> On Sun, 2018-12-16 at 14:28 +0000, David Haslam wrote:<br class="">>>>> Please tell us additionally in these announcements<br class="">>>>><br class="">>>>> Module type<br class="">>>>> Language<br class="">>>> Added to work list<br class="">>>><br class="">>>>> I’ve not yet been able to find BlaMat.<br class="">>>> It is Jon Bitgood's effort to digitise the Blackfoot Gospel of Mark.<br class="">>>> Blackfeet are one of the First Nations of Northern America.<br class="">>>><br class="">>>> I found his work on GitHub and started taking it on. There are some<br class="">>>> problems with it still and i have opened issues but I think it is<br class="">>>> worthwhile to start publishing.<br class="">>>><br class="">>>> I am far from sure how many Blackfoot speakers still exist but how ever<br class="">>>> few, I do think we owe them. Them and all other decimated First<br class="">>>> Nations.<br class="">>>><br class="">>>> Peter<br class="">>>><br class="">>>><br class="">>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>>> sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class="">>>> <a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br class="">>><br class="">>><br class="">>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>> sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class="">>> <a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br class="">><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">signature<br class=""><br class="">Aloha,<br class="">*/Michael Johnson/**<br class="">PO BOX 881143 • PUKALANI HI 96788-1143*• USA<br class=""><a href="http://mljohnson.org" class="">mljohnson.org</a> <<a href="http://mljohnson.org" class="">http://mljohnson.org</a>> • Phone: +1 808-333-6921 • Skype: kahunapule<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></dfhdfh@protonmail.com></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></sword-devel@crosswire.org></dfhdfh@protonmail.com></div></blockquote></div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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