<div dir="ltr">The book selection in the app comes pre installed with KJV, ESV and the 1905 Tagalog. It offers downloads that appear to match English and philippine languages hosted only on the main Crosswire site, but I can't be sure if anything else is present. <br><br>Re: cult status. <br><br>As far as I know the COGI isn't what I would call a 'cult'. If you dig into the statement of beliefs they appear to be Christian. Pretty much any protestant organization that isn't well-funded from abroad gets labelled 'cult' in the philippines. They are denegrated in the Philippines by the prominent religion, catholocism, as opposing Catholocism, and being popular. Statements about non-trinitarianism are at best distortions. They believe in the trinity, or a more western view of the trinity than many philippine "protestant" organizations. <br><br>Specifically, the Philippines has a strong tradition of female domination, especially in the southern half and far north. A particularly cultish view in the Philippines is the assignment of a father, mother, and child to the parts of the trinity. In the Philippines this genderific/generationalistic view by its nature sets an order that the holy spirit has priority over the other members, and the child in the trinity must always show respect to the other members. And there are biblical verses to support this view ... Statements by Jesus about the unpardonable sin, statements in revelation NOT to worship Jesus but god, statement post resurrection that real power comes later.<br><br>Even with verbiage about a co-equal trinity, if there is a female gender member and a generation gap, co-equal has a very specific pecking order. And in the Philippines, this idea that the trinity is a sideways triangle with the F at the top the M pointing to the side, and the m pointing down is strong. So much so, the word "trinity" has connotations of this iconography without any explanation. And in the Philippines, this "Trinity with gender" is regarded a Christian view, or at least it doesn't exclude Christianity by itself. <br><br>If you read the teachings of the COGI closely, the rejections are against a non coequal trinity of gender. They support the idea behind the trinity being inseparably one with three faces, not the idea of a trinity of three separate beings in a family. The words in western English seem to not say this, but when you read it with eastern eyes... they are arguing for a focus on unity, not the traditional philippine family view. <div><br>However, It is a central figure dominated organization. Those seem to be everywhere and hard to avoid these days. <br><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:08 PM Peter Von Kaehne <<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net">refdoc@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px"><div>
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<div>Thanks Michael,<br>
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I had hoped you would pick this up as I think you speak Tagalog? Anyway. That is a great start. All support requests so far are in bad English or - the last one - in Tagalog.<br>
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There are a number of "minor" Android Apps which are built on CW stuff - the most public one is of course BibleTime Mobile but I have seen others. "Pocket Bible" appears to be based on Sword and seems to use the IBT repository - but not the rest(?). I have seen others, but can't find them in a rush.</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 02. November 2018 um 16:20 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Michael H" <<a href="mailto:cmahte@gmail.com" target="_blank">cmahte@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>An:</b> "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <<a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [sword-devel] Omega DigiBible</div>
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The developer on Google play is listed as VSIONTEQ. They aren't related to the church. They have only a few items on the play store, so this is either an obfuscation layer of a larger outfit or a small org. But.. they are likely the ones who can fix the contact inside the android app. <br>
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<a href="http://vsionteq.com/support.php" target="_blank">http://vsionteq.com/support.php</a><br>
I googled this, but the address listed at the bottom of this page here is the same that appears on the play store listing. <br>
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They are using the sword repo, and giving credit in the app. I don't recognize the app itself, which is only saying it's not obviously based on AndBible. I haven't played with anything but AndBible or Bishop in forever. if someone has a suggestion what it might be I can compare. <br>
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The app doesn't appear to have any 'contact crosswire for support' link... but it does have a confusing pointer to a non-existent support link followed immediately by a credit line to crosswire....<br>
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The credit line to Crosswire appears below a confusing statement how to contact support, however, theres no 'support' link on the webpage that links, so reading the line again, the next place to click is on the crosswire acknowledgement below that. (link for the word support goes to the TLD <a href="http://www.omegadigibible.com/" target="_blank">http://www.omegadigibible.com</a> ) For non-english speakers, it's not clear what that line about emailing support says, and it could be read to contact crosswire for limited English speakers. <br>
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The facebook link above the support link goes here: ( <a href="https://www.facebook.com/OmegaDigiBible/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/OmegaDigiBible/</a> ) <br>
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TZTNRXVvMC3Rhtn5007RfxVF_g8kxkYp" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TZTNRXVvMC3Rhtn5007RfxVF_g8kxkYp</a></div>
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<div>On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:00 AM <a href="mailto:refdoc@crosswire.org" target="_blank">refdoc@crosswire.org</a> <<a href="mailto:refdoc@crosswire.org" target="_blank">refdoc@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1.0px rgb(204,204,204) solid;padding-left:1.0ex">We are receiving on the CrossWire support channel more and more requests for assistance regarding a product which is not ours Omega DigiBible.<br>
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I looked at the download site and could not discern from screenshots whether this is anything from us or not. But if they share our support email it is likely something or other ripped from us rather than a homebrew using our libraries.<br>
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What I did discern is that a large probably somewhat cultic Filipino church is behind it.<br>
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I do not want to install it on my phone as I am not sure what kind of spyware it drags along, but would be grateful if anyone here on the list has a running Android simulator or has a disposable testing phone without anything valuable datawise on it if they could install it and come back with some info.<br>
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Useful info would be - what is the underlying ripped off app (if it is ripped off), where does it share our email as support email and is there any info regarding who the actual developers are (rather than the church at large).<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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Peter<br>
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