<div>Hi John,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Search GitHub for the repository called and-bible.<br></div><div>If you have an account, you can add an issue therein.<br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Best regards,<br></div><div><br></div><div>David<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton">Sent with <a href="https://protonmail.com" target="_blank">ProtonMail</a> Secure Email.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On 15 June 2018 9:19 PM, John Dudeck &lt;john.dudeck@sim.org&gt; wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Ok. I think I just realized where my problem lies.</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">In Xiphos, the Introductory material is displaying the way you describe, which is what I want.</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">But in AndBible, only the text that is withing the &lt;chapter&gt; tags is displaying.</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">So I'm guessing this is a JSword or AndBible issue.</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Whom do we contact about this?</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">John</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"></span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; I’ll see if I can explain from memory. I’m the most recent contributor to osis2mod.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Below “first” means the first encountered. For a complete Bible it is as you’d think, but if there is</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; only one testament or an incomplete testament, first may not refer to Genesis or Matthew. Also,</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; if a book or chapter doesn’t start with chapter or verse 1, then first doesn’t refer to 1.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; BTW, Intro, Heading, and Title are treated as the same. The toggle for headings handles all</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; three the same. Initially the thought was that there were only titles and sub-titles.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Bible Intro. Osis2mod doesn’t know how to properly handle this. Everything before the first</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; testament is gathered as the Bible intro. OSIS doesn’t require testament divisions, but these are</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; needed to identify a Bible intro.&nbsp;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Testament Intro. Osis2mod doesn’t know how to properly handle this. Everything before the first</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; book is gathered as a testament intro. Everything after the last book of the Old Testament and</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; before the first book of the New Testament is gathered as the NT intro.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Because osis2mod doesn’t know how to address Bible and Testament intro it is put in the first</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; location it knows is after that point. Practically, it becomes intro material in the first chapter.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Book Intro. Everything inside the book tag before the first chapter tag is a Book intro. While it is</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; placed in chapter 0, verse 0 for the book, you never explicitly address 0. Osis2mod will figure it</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; out.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Chapter Intro. This is the most difficult. A chapter intro comes after the chapter tag and comes</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; before the tag for verse 1. But some can be an intro that goes with the chapter and some is</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; taken as the intro to a verse. Since it is hard to control where one ends and the next begins, the</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; wiki has carefully laid out how osis2mod distinguishes the two. Special treatment is needed for</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; canonical Psalm headings. That which goes with the chapter intro is put into verse 0 for that</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; chapter, but you never explicitly address 0. Osis2mod will figure it out as well. The rest is</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; prefixed to verse 1 with special markup that osis2mod adds.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Verse intro (aka titles). This is everything between 2 verses after the last closing tag of the prior</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; verse and before the start verse tag. Often this contains no text but only structural tags.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Many frontends do not show intro material but only material from verse 1 and following.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; (Hopefully, I’m wrong.)</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; If you make an uncompressed module and use the debug flag to show markers for verses you</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; can view the built data files in a readable format.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; If someone can explain to me how to address the intros using the SWORD engine, I’ll update</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; osis2mod to properly store them.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; The wiki can be improved. Feel free to make it read better.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Hope this helps,</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; DM</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:11 PM, John Dudeck &lt;john.dudeck@sim.org&gt; wrote:</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Would somebody please clarify the documentation on the wiki page for osis2mod.exe for</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; "Handling of Introductions, Titles and Inter-Verse Material". I can't make heads nor tails out</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; of it.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; Specifically, how are we supposed to tag (in OSIS) the introductory material in a Bible?</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; The wiki page says that SWORD looks for module, testament, book and chapter</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; introductory material." In the Bibles I am working on, everything inside of chapter tags is</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; being displayed, but none of the stuff outside the chapter tags is being displayed.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; It says that "A module introduction should be place into testament 0, book 0, chapter 0,</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; verse 0. A testament introduction should be placed into testament 1 or 2, book 0, chapter</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; 0, verse 0." What does this mean? Where do you tag the testament number, the book</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; number, etc? This is not explained in the OSIS documentation, which only mentions book</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; abbreviations, and nothing about testaments.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt;</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; It says "See OSIS Bibles for best practices in marking up titles and introductions." But that</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="colour" style="color:#7f0000"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">&gt; page says nothing at all about introductions.</span></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"></span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">John Dudeck</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Programmer at Editions Cle&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Lyon, France</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">john.dudeck@sim.org&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; john@editionscle.com</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">--</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">It's unlikely that one of the things you'll regret when you're older is</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">not having consumed enough beer in your 20s, or not having bought enough</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">$5 lattes, or not having spent enough time on the internet.</span></span></span><br></div><div align="left">&nbsp;&nbsp;<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>