<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">The latest JSword should handle it just fine. When you grab an entire chapter it will grab verse 0 for the chapter. You have to get the entire book to get chapter 0. Or explicitly request 0. E.g. Matt.0.0-1.ff.<div><br></div><div>AndBible is the place to go. It uses an earlier version of JSword. Martin Denham is the author but he is unable to work on it. Volunteers are welcome. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">— DM Smith<div>From my phone. Brief. Weird autocorrections. </div></div><div><br>On Jun 15, 2018, at 4:19 PM, John Dudeck <<a href="mailto:john.dudeck@sim.org">john.dudeck@sim.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<title></title>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Ok. I think I just realized where my problem lies.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">In Xiphos, the Introductory material is displaying the way you describe, which is what I want.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">But in AndBible, only the text that is withing the <chapter> tags is displaying.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">So I'm guessing this is a JSword or AndBible issue.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Whom do we contact about this?</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">John</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> I’ll see if I can explain from memory. I’m the most recent contributor to osis2mod.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Below “first” means the first encountered. For a complete Bible it is as you’d think, but if there is </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> only one testament or an incomplete testament, first may not refer to Genesis or Matthew. Also, </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> if a book or chapter doesn’t start with chapter or verse 1, then first doesn’t refer to 1.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> BTW, Intro, Heading, and Title are treated as the same. The toggle for headings handles all </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> three the same. Initially the thought was that there were only titles and sub-titles.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Bible Intro. Osis2mod doesn’t know how to properly handle this. Everything before the first </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> testament is gathered as the Bible intro. OSIS doesn’t require testament divisions, but these are </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> needed to identify a Bible intro. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Testament Intro. Osis2mod doesn’t know how to properly handle this. Everything before the first </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> book is gathered as a testament intro. Everything after the last book of the Old Testament and </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> before the first book of the New Testament is gathered as the NT intro.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Because osis2mod doesn’t know how to address Bible and Testament intro it is put in the first </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> location it knows is after that point. Practically, it becomes intro material in the first chapter.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Book Intro. Everything inside the book tag before the first chapter tag is a Book intro. While it is </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> placed in chapter 0, verse 0 for the book, you never explicitly address 0. Osis2mod will figure it </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> out.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Chapter Intro. This is the most difficult. A chapter intro comes after the chapter tag and comes </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> before the tag for verse 1. But some can be an intro that goes with the chapter and some is </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> taken as the intro to a verse. Since it is hard to control where one ends and the next begins, the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> wiki has carefully laid out how osis2mod distinguishes the two. Special treatment is needed for </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> canonical Psalm headings. That which goes with the chapter intro is put into verse 0 for that </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> chapter, but you never explicitly address 0. Osis2mod will figure it out as well. The rest is </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> prefixed to verse 1 with special markup that osis2mod adds.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Verse intro (aka titles). This is everything between 2 verses after the last closing tag of the prior </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> verse and before the start verse tag. Often this contains no text but only structural tags.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Many frontends do not show intro material but only material from verse 1 and following. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> (Hopefully, I’m wrong.)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> If you make an uncompressed module and use the debug flag to show markers for verses you </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> can view the built data files in a readable format.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> If someone can explain to me how to address the intros using the SWORD engine, I’ll update </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> osis2mod to properly store them.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> The wiki can be improved. Feel free to make it read better.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Hope this helps,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> DM</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:11 PM, John Dudeck <<a href="mailto:john.dudeck@sim.org">john.dudeck@sim.org</a>> wrote:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Would somebody please clarify the documentation on the wiki page for osis2mod.exe for </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> "Handling of Introductions, Titles and Inter-Verse Material". I can't make heads nor tails out </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> of it.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Specifically, how are we supposed to tag (in OSIS) the introductory material in a Bible? </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> The wiki page says that SWORD looks for module, testament, book and chapter </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> introductory material." In the Bibles I am working on, everything inside of chapter tags is </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> being displayed, but none of the stuff outside the chapter tags is being displayed.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> It says that "A module introduction should be place into testament 0, book 0, chapter 0, </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> verse 0. A testament introduction should be placed into testament 1 or 2, book 0, chapter </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> 0, verse 0." What does this mean? Where do you tag the testament number, the book </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> number, etc? This is not explained in the OSIS documentation, which only mentions book </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> abbreviations, and nothing about testaments.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> It says "See OSIS Bibles for best practices in marking up titles and introductions." But that </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> page says nothing at all about introductions.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">John Dudeck</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Programmer at Editions Cle Lyon, France</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt"><a href="mailto:john.dudeck@sim.org">john.dudeck@sim.org</a> <a href="mailto:john@editionscle.com">john@editionscle.com</a></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">--</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">It's unlikely that one of the things you'll regret when you're older is </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">not having consumed enough beer in your 20s, or not having bought enough </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">$5 lattes, or not having spent enough time on the internet.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"> </div>
</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a></span><br><span>Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</span></div></blockquote></div></body></html>