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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Ok, I found the canon_*.h files in https://www.crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/include/</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">This is somewhat helpful. But it does not answer my questions.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">(Btw the part about mapping the milestones and references to KJV is not really a big deal, because I already had the code to do it
from a different project. In fact I can map them to any v11n that I need with that code. I agree that it is not an ideal solution, but I
have been waiting for the newer versifications. At least I can proceed with my work, and go back and remap later with no hassle.)</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">I have read the wiki pages on alternate versifications and book abbreviations many times going over them with a fine-toothed
comb. But they do not tell me how to correlate the osis xml with original texts that are laid out differently, particularly in the
following cases:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">1) What is the usage/syntax for Sirach prologue? The supposed "SirP" pseudo-book does not show up in the .h files, and I get
errors in osis2mod v.2893 (Windows utilities v1.7.0-1). </span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">2) It looks like catholic2 is closest to the French PDV bible that I am trying to build. However for Esther it shows 16 chapters,
which corresponds more or less to Greek Esther, not regular Esther, but does not list both Esth and EsthGr. Furthermore, the
verses-per-chapter for Esther do not correspond to anything I can deduce from the Greek Esther text. The added chapters in
Greek Esther are given letters (A-F), and are interspersed throughout the text in an irregular manner. The PDV Greek Esther
actually has 18 chapters if you count each of the separate runs of verses that are separated by chapter numbers/letters. Is there
any place I can find out which verses are supposed to be in each of the 16 chapters? Or at least explain how I can figure it out?
Ie. what text was this based on?</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">3) Where do I find the latest Windows utilities that support all the versifications? The latest I can find is 1.7.0-1 on the crosswire
web site. I saw the reference to Greg Helling's site which is currently down. I am not really in a position to build the windows tools
from scratch, nor is it desirable to do it from Linux, which would require setting up another workstation, and I don't really have
time or room for that. Does anybody know if the Linux tools will run in the Windows 10 Subsystem for Linux (Ubuntu bash on
Windows)?</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Thanks!</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> The syntax is not different. The booknames are documented here:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Book_Abbreviations</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> However, some editions of the DC books make use of alphanumeric verse designations for parts </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> of the Greek additions from the LXX.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> This makes things rather complicated even in ParaTExt/USFM, let alone in OSIS XML.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Best regards,</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> David</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> On 31 May 2018 10:04 AM, refdoc@gmx.net <refdoc@gmx.net> wrote:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Documentation:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> http://wiki.crosswire.org/Alternate_Versification</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> This and the source. For the nitty-gritty there is no way around other than reading the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> source.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> The versifications differ by books present, chapter and verse counts and are organised in </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> tables within canon_xxx.h files in the include directory within the source.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> As such, and I am sorry to probably nix a lot of hard work on your side, I would strongly </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> suggest to not ever force an existing text into KJV format. Create your osis file exactly as </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> the text is meant to and then look for the most fitting versification scheme, which likely is </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> not KJV.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Yours</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Peter</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> -------- Original Message --------</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Subject: [sword-devel] osis ref syntax for GkEsth & AddDan</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> From: John Dudeck</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> To: sword devel forum</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> CC:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Related to my question about Sirach, I also need to know the correct reference </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#7f0000" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> syntax for Greek Esther and Additions to Daniel.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">John Dudeck</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Programmer at Editions Cle                             Lyon, France</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">john.dudeck@sim.org                            john@editionscle.com</span></font></div>
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