<div dir="auto"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 28, 2017 10:46, &quot;Tom Sullivan&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:info@beforgiven.info">info@beforgiven.info</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Greg:<br>
<br>
Sorry, I am still, in many ways a Debian newbie. There must be some process whereby Sword front-ends and the back-end (e.g., libsword-utils) get into the packages. I have read somewhat on &quot;package maintainers&quot; and understand that they can be developers of the package they maintain. Is that correct, or do I recall falsely?<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You do understand correctly. However, I am not aware of any doubt end developers who are active in package maintenance in Debian or Ubuntu. It&#39;s a very different skill set. I&#39;m not even aware of any who use those distros as their main system.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You&#39;ll need to contact someone with those skills and the approval necessary to create those packages.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--Greg</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
The audience of my request was the front-end developers and the utilities developers. Am I missing something here? I would appreciate some help if so.<br>
<br>
Many thanks.<br>
<br>
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On 12/28/2017 11:22 AM, Greg Hellings wrote:<br>
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<br>
On Dec 28, 2017 08:52, &quot;Tom Sullivan&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:info@beforgiven.info" target="_blank">info@beforgiven.info</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:info@beforgiven.info" target="_blank">info@beforgiven.info</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
    Y&#39;all:<br>
<br>
    Along the same lines as Cyrille&#39;s remarks:<br>
<br>
    This is a humble (recognizing that everybody is a volunteer and<br>
    busy) request to all front-end publishers to publish updates and (at<br>
    least) bug fixes in updated packages to both stable (currently<br>
    Stretch) and testing (currently Buster) versions of Debian and its<br>
    derivatives. Backports would also be acceptable.<br>
<br>
<br>
In general the upstream developers and the distro packagers are not the same people. You will need to contact your distro package maintainers to get those updated.<br>
<br>
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<br>
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    wait years for bug fixes, especially when the new version will have<br>
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        Le 27/12/2017 à 17:15, David Haslam a écrit :<br>
<br>
            May I suggest that these be included in release *1.8.1*<br>
            which Greg more than hinted at in the release announcement.<br>
<br>
<br>
        I was hoping these v11n could be in the next debian and so in<br>
        the next Ubuntu LTS (18.04). Is it so difficult to add it yet?<br>
<br>
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                -------- Original Message --------<br>
                Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Announcing release 1.8.0<br>
                Local Time: 27 December 2017 4:03 PM<br>
                UTC Time: 27 December 2017 16:03<br></div><div class="quoted-text">
                From: <a href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" target="_blank">lafricain79@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" target="_blank">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                To: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br>
                &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank">sword-devel@crosswire.<wbr>org</a>&gt;<br>
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                Le 24/12/2017 à 15:08, Greg Hellings a écrit :<br>
<br>
                    If you can see them in the folder, then there&#39;s<br>
                    nothing to add.<br>
<br>
                No I&#39;m sorry I made a typo mistake I wanted to write<br>
                that I*can&#39;t* see the 3 new Catholic v11n...<br>
<br>
<br>
                    --Greg<br>
<br>
<br>
                    On Dec 24, 2017 04:07, &quot;Cyrille&quot;<br>
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" target="_blank">lafricain79@gmail.com</a><br>
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                    &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:lafricain79@gmail.com" target="_blank">lafricain79@gmail.com</a>&gt;<wbr>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
                         Hello,<br>
                         I can see the 3 new Catholic v11n in the<br>
                    include folder, please<br>
                         add it. You can find it here<br>
                                            &lt;<a href="https://gitlab.com/lafricain79/LinVB/tree/master/v11n" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gitlab.com/lafricain7<wbr>9/LinVB/tree/master/v11n</a><br>
                    &lt;<a href="https://gitlab.com/lafricain79/LinVB/tree/master/v11n" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gitlab.com/lafricain7<wbr>9/LinVB/tree/master/v11n</a>&gt;&gt;.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
                         Le 23/12/2017 à 21:51, Greg Hellings a écrit :<br>
<br>
                             I would like to take this chance to<br>
                        announce the immediate<br>
                             availability of SWORD release 1.8.0.<br>
<br>
                             I know this release has been a long time in<br>
                        coming, but the<br>
                             long time comes with lots of benefits for<br>
                        users, developers,<br>
                             and maintainers. The benefits to users and<br>
                        developers are<br>
                             mentioned elsewhere, throughout the code<br>
                        and other places. The<br>
                             main benefit to maintainers is that, now,<br>
                        there are automated<br>
                             tests in place and the release process is<br>
                        now automated. This<br>
                             means that future releases on that 1.8<br>
                        branch can be easily<br>
                             executed whenever needed.<br>
<br>
                             Have a Merry Christmas, everyone! And keep<br>
                        your eyes open for a<br>
                             1.8.1 in the not too distant future to fix<br>
                        up buildings in the<br>
                             binding code. Otherwise, you can get the<br>
                        code you&#39;re looking<br>
                             for below:<br>
<br>
                             MD5: 095dbd723738c2a232c85685a11827<wbr>a8<br>
                        sword-1.8.0.tar.gz<br>
<br>
                             SHA512:<br>
                                                    c45f3135255322a77e955297997db2<wbr>529f31b397c42cc4b9474dc6ec8d32<wbr>9b2233b292078979de5fbf33cad4a1<wbr>a607aabb66f86501072a729d68e9fc<wbr>840c8c8e<br>
                              sword-1.8.0.tar.gz<br>
<br>
                             URL:<br>
                        <a href="http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/source/v1.8/sword-1.8.0.tar.gz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror<wbr>/pub/sword/source/v1.8/sword-<wbr>1.8.0.tar.gz</a><br>
                        &lt;<a href="http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/source/v1.8/sword-1.8.0.tar.gz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/ftpmirro<wbr>r/pub/sword/source/v1.8/sword-<wbr>1.8.0.tar.gz</a>&gt;<br>
                                                    &lt;<a href="http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/source/v1.8/sword-1.8.0.tar.gz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/ftpmirro<wbr>r/pub/sword/source/v1.8/sword-<wbr>1.8.0.tar.gz</a><br>
                        &lt;<a href="http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/source/v1.8/sword-1.8.0.tar.gz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/ftpmirro<wbr>r/pub/sword/source/v1.8/sword-<wbr>1.8.0.tar.gz</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
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