<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">You posted it to the list. :)<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 18, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Fred Smith <<a href="mailto:fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us" class="">fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:19:24AM -0600, Greg Hellings wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">I don't have access to a GUI machine with Cent installed at the<br class="">moment. I haven't noticed an issue with the GTK3 build of Xiphos, but<br class="">I only do a very cursory check of the builds.<br class=""><br class="">There are both xiphos-gtk2 and xiphos-gtk3 builds in EPEL7 at the<br class="">moment, and you should be able to install them side-by-side. This is<br class="">at Karl's request, and is something I have to keep battling the other<br class="">Xiphos packagers for in the Fedora/EPEL build system. Sometimes<br class="">someone at RedHat goes on a rampage to destroy all GTK2 packages from<br class="">places where upstream supports GTK3 and I have to then restore the<br class="">dual build.<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">those who seek "purity" sometimes become rather over-zealous! :)</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; 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font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="http://users.rcn.com/fredricksmith/xiphos/xiphos-flash.ogv" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">users.rcn.com/fredricksmith/xiphos/xiphos-flash.ogv</a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>that illustrates</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">the issue.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I sent this directly to you, not posted to the list, because I don't</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">especially want hundreds of people connecting to my pages on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://rcn.com/" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">rcn.com</a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Fred</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="">--Greg<br class=""><br class="">--Greg<br class=""><br class="">On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Fred Smith<br class=""><<a href="mailto:fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us" class="">fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:05:52AM -0600, Greg Hellings wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Fred,<br class=""><br class="">Please tell me which parts of Xiphos are not provided in EPEL.<br class=""><br class="">yum info xiphos-gtk3<br class="">Loaded plugins: fastestmirror<br class="">Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile<br class="">* base: <a href="http://centos.arvixe.com" class="">centos.arvixe.com</a><br class="">* epel: <a href="http://fedora-epel.mirror.lstn.net" class="">fedora-epel.mirror.lstn.net</a><br class="">* extras: <a href="http://dallas.tx.mirror.xygenhosting.com" class="">dallas.tx.mirror.xygenhosting.com</a><br class="">* updates: <a href="http://mirror.fusioncloud.co" class="">mirror.fusioncloud.co</a><br class="">Available Packages<br class="">Name : xiphos-gtk3<br class="">Arch : x86_64<br class="">Version : 4.0.3<br class="">Release : 1.el7<br class=""><br class="">The specific quote you were asking about is addressing the iOS client, though.<br class=""><br class="">--Greg<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Hi Greg!<br class=""><br class="">I built my own because (at the time) EPEL did not provide Xiphos 4.x,<br class="">nor a compatible modern Sword library. I haven't looked recently to see<br class="">if those things now are in EPEL. it may be that they now are there,<br class="">mooting my need to rebuild in the future.<br class=""><br class="">on a different note:<br class="">BTW, there is (or was) some problem in the GTK3 build of Xiphos that<br class="">cause bizarre flashing on the module manager screens (don't recall if it<br class="">also occurred on other screens), that Karl reported did not occur with<br class="">the GTK2 build. As a result I stopped using the GTK3 build on my machines,<br class="">hoping that somebody, somewhere, some day would fix GTK3. Has anyone<br class="">looked at the epel3 xiphos-GTK3 build to see if it exhibits the same<br class="">issue?<br class=""><br class="">Fred<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Fred Smith<br class=""><<a href="mailto:fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us" class="">fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 03:16:54AM -0800, David Haslam wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Updated news from Nic.<br class=""><br class="">"I believe that all apps and updates needed to be compiled for 64 bit by the<br class="">middle of last year."<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">FWIW, I've been compiling Xihos (and all its dependencies that aren't<br class="">provided by Centos/epel--i.e., I've compiled Sword, lucene, biblesync)<br class="">for Cenots 7.x (Linux) as 64-bit for some months now.<br class=""><br class="">Or are you referring to some other platform?<br class=""><br class="">Fred<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">then later he replied:<br class=""><br class="">----<br class=""><br class="">I have yet to look. I gave things a try about 2 years ago and saw they<br class="">didn’t work out of the box. I switched back to 32-bit and haven’t looked at<br class="">it again since, sorry.<br class=""><br class="">Having a 20 second look now, CURL will need updating (easy). clucene will<br class="">need updating (hopefully easy?). The Zip utilities I use need updating. The<br class="">HTTP server stuff I use (for MMM) needs updating.<br class=""><br class="">A fresh compile when I have enabled what Apple wants me to enable generates<br class="">374 warnings (perhaps more, we’d need to eliminate them to see if there are<br class="">still more left?) and 4 errors (in CURL because of arch issues).<br class=""><br class="">Looking at more of the warnings, some are from libsword itself.<br class=""><br class="">Ok, 2 minutes of cleaning up and . . . same warnings but only 3 errors now.<br class=""><br class="">Yup, it will need a bit of work to make it 64-bit ready, but hopefully most<br class="">of the work will have been done by others in the 3rd party libs that are<br class="">causing issues.<br class=""><br class="">David<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">View this message in context: <a href="http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/64-bit-operating-system-support-tp4655699p4655839.html" class="">http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/64-bit-operating-system-support-tp4655699p4655839.html</a><br class="">Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at <a href="http://nabble.com" class="">Nabble.com</a>.<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">--<br class="">---- Fred Smith -- <a href="mailto:fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us" class="">fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us</a> -----------------------------<br class=""> The Lord is like a strong tower.<br class=""> Those who do what is right can run to him for safety.<br class="">--------------------------- Proverbs 18:10 (niv) -----------------------------<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">--<br class="">---- Fred Smith -- <a href="mailto:fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us" class="">fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us</a> -----------------------------<br class=""> "For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his<br class="">glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior<br class="">be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before<br class=""> all ages, now and forevermore! Amen."<br class="">----------------------------- Jude 1:24,25 (niv) -----------------------------<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" class="">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel" class="">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a><br class="">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; 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widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-----------------------------</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> God made him who had no sin</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; 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