<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Re: title and the various attributes. The most important thing is that it displays. Which it does. It may look funky under certain circumstances. All depends on what the frontend expects as a hierarchy of titles.<div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For example:</div><div class="">main - the outermost title, typically the title of a book</div><div class="">chapter - the main title of a chapter</div><div class="">no attr - a section title</div><div class="">sub - a sub-title of another title</div><div class="">continued - an additional line of the immediately prior title<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Re: title and type=parallel, the OSIS manual recommends as you have noted, but when it describes the purpose of parallel it is otherwise. IMHO, one of those two places is wrong or the document needs improvement.</div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">
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<li style="font-size: 9.000000pt; font-family: 'OpenSymbol'" class=""><p class=""><span style="font-size: 12.000000pt; font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPS'; font-weight: 700" class="">parallel </span><span style="font-size: 12.000000pt; font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT'" class="">Use where titles are given in alternative languages. </span></p>
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</div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In looking at how SWORD and JSword frontends handle this, I looked at Bible Desktop, Xiphos and Eloquent. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In Bible Desktop, toggling references just changes whether the link is active or not. So it looks good.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In Xiphos, footnotes are toggled, so it shows as link text at all times. So it looks good.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However, in Eloquent (successor to MacSword), the titles are not shown at all. I think it is a bug in Eloquent.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think both BD and Xiphos (SWORD? CSS?) would do well to eliminate the space between immediately adjacent titles.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In Him,</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>DM</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <<a href="mailto:Kahunapule@ebible.org" class="">Kahunapule@eBible.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/21/2015 02:11 PM, DM Smith wrote:<br class="">
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<pre wrap="" class="">I found the following in eBible’s kud2008eb. The following is Matt.1.1.
<div type="x-milestone" subType="x-preverse" sID="pv1"/><div sID="gen5" type="section"/><title canonical="false" type="sub">Yeisu Besinana ana mumugao </title><title type="parallel">(<reference osisRef="Luke.3.23">Luke 3:23-38</reference>) </title><div sID="gen6" type="x-p"/> <div type="x-milestone" subType="x-preverse" eID="pv1"/>Laulele teina Besinana Yeisu ana mumugao vehabadi. Yeisu tubuna Deivida, na Deivida tubuna mugamugaina Abelaham.
The problem is that the osisRef is incomplete. It should be osisRef="Luke.3.23-Luke.3.38”.
The impact is that clicking on the reference in Bible Desktop, it only shows Luke 3:23.</pre>
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This is a known artifact of the current conversion from
human-readable references to machine readable references. USFM
doesn't directly handle reference links, so I synthesize them on
conversion to USFX, which is then converted to OSIS. This will
probably be fixed eventually, but don't hold your breath waiting for
it. It probably involves rewriting the code that does that, which is
currently a set of 7 XSLT processes. I have a lot of higher
priorities on my work list. If you prefer, I could inhibit such
osisRef entries altogether until such time as I might possibly get
around to improving the reference reading process. (It is kind of
complicated, since "human readable" actually means "human readable
in any of about 7,000 languages".) The alternative of getting all of
the translators (or anyone else) to go back and manually enter
machine-readable references probably won't happen during this
century.<br class="">
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<pre wrap="" class="">The following is just extra. It is in addition to the bug mentioned above.
It is also really odd that there is a second title that contains a parenthesized, inlined reference.
The type="sub” is meant to give a sub part of a title. Since there is no prior title, it shouldn’t be sub. As a plain title, it doesn’t need an attribute.</pre>
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That "sub" in the title probably came from \s (section title), which
could be (but isn't always) under \ms (main section title). It does
no harm, as far as I can tell, and having it there covers the case
where \s follows \ms. Let's not move the goal posts any more than we
have to.<br class="">
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<pre wrap="" class="">Also, the type=“parallel” is inappropriate. The OSIS manual gives that parallel is meant to provide the title in another language. The type sub is probably more appropriate. Or even type="continued” which means that this title continues the last.</pre>
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Page Appendix F, page 138 of the OSIS User Manual seems to disagree
with you about the proper conversion of the USFM \r tag.<br class="">
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<pre wrap="" class="">Note that canonical=“false” is redundant. All titles by default are canonical=“false”.</pre>
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Yes, it is. That is certainly not the only redundancy. It is not
harmful.<br class="">
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