<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Ditto with PocketSword, if we're that close to a release... :)<br><br>Sent from my phone, hence this email may be short...</div><div><br>On 21 Mar 2015, at 00:44, Chris Burrell <<a href="mailto:christopher.burrell@gmail.com">christopher.burrell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><div style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Happy to test it on step but would need module</div></div><div dir="ltr"><hr><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="mailto:dmsmith@crosswire.org">DM Smith</a></span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">20/03/2015 13:40</span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum</a></span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [sword-devel] NASB?</span><br><br></div><div>I had to make changes in JSword to accommodate the NASB. It is checked in. It works properly for Bible Desktop. I don’t know if it has been incorporated into AndBible or STEP.</div><div><br></div>I’m readying a release for Bible Desktop. Hope to have the nightly builds running again soon. Then a limited beta with those. Followed by an official beta. (I’ve about a dozen places that the av11n is not right, still assuming KJV.)<div><br></div><div>Last I looked, we have about 3K downloads of Bible Desktop a month from the CrossWire server. Haven’t looked recently. This is nothing compared to AndBible.</div><div><br></div><div>Part of the process is to change how I develop so that I don’t have changes that preclude more frequent releases. (That’s a different discussion.)</div><div><br></div><div>— DM</div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 20, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Troy A. Griffitts <<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org">scribe@crosswire.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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Thank you for your concern Jon; it is understandable given the time
to release for this module. The mandate was simply that we test on
the major filter variations of SWORD and one JSword app before
release.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/20/2015 03:43 AM, Jonathan Morgan
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<div>Hi Peter,<br>
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The last version I saw worked with BPBible, but that
was a few years ago.<br>
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You are correct on av11n though - if NASB's now using
av11n then even NRSV (?) versification gives odd
results in BPBible once you get into Revelation.<br>
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My view on that is the same as my view on BibleDesktop -
there comes a time when the cost of stopping people
using a module outweighs the benefits of waiting till
every app handles it nicely.<br>
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I would have been disappointed if lots of existing modules
were reissued with av11n six months or a year after the
av11n release and a number of apps weren't ready.<br>
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However, now we're years afterwards. I'm still
disappointed, but the disappointment is more not being able
to get time to make BPBible support it.<br>
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CrossWire has to be able to move on without being held back
too long by all the existing apps, otherwise people will be
missing out on new functionality.<br>
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Jon<br>
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Von Kaehne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">refdoc@gmx.net</a>></span>
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<div>FWIW, I would think, it won't work properly with
BpBible either, until BpBible implements av11n.</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px 0px 10px;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag,
20. März 2015 um 09:54 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Jonathan Morgan" <<a href="mailto:jonmmorgan@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jonmmorgan@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>An:</b> "SWORD Developers' Collaboration
Forum" <<a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [sword-devel] NASB?</div>
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<div>Hi Greg/Troy,<br>
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>From the point of view of an
outsider to the decision making process,
I'm concerned that you are preventing
access by the many for the benefit of
the few.</div>
<div>Of course, I don't know the exact
time-frames we're talking here. If it's
a case of an extra few months on top of
a process which has lasted years it
would be reasonable.</div>
<div>If it ends up much longer, then I
think the cost to users of other
frontends is much greater than the
benefit of this policy.<br>
This particularly applies as (as I
understand it) the NASB will be a "for
sale" module which could have a clear
disclaimer "this will not work properly
with BibleDesktop" and probably won't be
immediately available for sale the day
you sign off on it (I find Greg's "the
next step in the process" comment
ominous).<br>
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<div>Jon</div>
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2015 at 8:31 AM, Greg Hellings <span><<a href="http://greg.hellings@gmail.com/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">I'm waiting
on DM to release the new version of
BibleDesktop which has<br>
several style handling improvements
utilized by the NASB. Troy has<br>
mandated that the module appear
properly in the main desktop<br>
applications, and that's the last one
to come into line.<br>
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Once that's done, then we can move on
to the next step in the process.<br>
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<span><font color="#888888">--Greg</font></span>
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:28 AM,
David Haslam <<a href="http://dfhmch@googlemail.com/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dfhmch@googlemail.com</a>>
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> Greg Hellings took up the
NASB project.<br>
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> David<br>
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