<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi DM,<br><br>Thanks for the comment.<br></div>I think caching brings us back to the question "Do we expect it to be at chapter level or at book level"?<br></div><div>I think there are good arguments for chapter level being theoretically helpful, but it could make a cached conf string much more unwieldy.<br></div>Which is JSword doing?<br><br></div>Jon<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:49 AM, DM Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dmsmith@crosswire.org" target="_blank">dmsmith@crosswire.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">It is not fast, but is reasonably fast. It takes a look at the index file (not the data file) to see what verses have size. If size is 0, then that verse is not in the v11n. A book is present if all the verses have size 0.<div><br></div><div>I’m pretty sure that both AndBible and STEP have this woven in. BibleDesktop needs to be released soon.<br><div><br></div><div>I think that *some* frontends cache that in the module’s conf as an osisRef. BTW, cached in the module’s conf means it never gets out of date or specified wrongly.</div><div><br></div><div>I think that Scope (and BookList) should be handled like InstallSize. That is, not specified by the module maker but computed and maintained on the server.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>— DM</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 8, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Jonathan Morgan <<a href="mailto:jonmmorgan@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonmmorgan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Peter,<br><br>If I read Chris' comment correctly, you wouldn't need to do put anything in the conf file. It will automatically figure it out based on which books (and possibly chapters?) are in the Bible. <br>This roughly matches the direction discussion took in the original thread, as enough people found enough problems with having a scope specifier in the conf file.<br><br></div><div>So long as this performs OK I think it's a great solution, because it tells you exactly what is in the Bible, and won't get specified wrongly or fall out of date.<br></div><div>Main advantage: Module maker doesn't have to specify the scope. It "just works".<br></div><div>Main disadvantage: Frontend developers have to implement it :(<br><br></div><div>Hope that makes sense.<br><br>Jon<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Peter Von Kaehne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:refdoc@gmx.net" target="_blank">refdoc@gmx.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px"><div>
<div>Ah brilliant.</div>
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<div>So something in Jsword but not yet in Sword?</div>
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<div>What is the exact syntax a conf file entry should have? I would try this out immediately.</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0"><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 08. Januar 2015 um 10:58 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Chris Burrell" <<a href="mailto:chris@burrell.me.uk" target="_blank">chris@burrell.me.uk</a>><br>
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<div>Hi David
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<div>The discussion did result into code on the JSword project. We now have JSword specific configuration that is populated automatically by examining content (as well as front-end specific configuration).</div>
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<div>We have a 'scope' and a 'book list'</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Chris</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 8 January 2015 at 10:51, David Haslam <span><<a href="http://dfhmch@googlemail.com/" target="_blank">dfhmch@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1.0px rgb(204,204,204) solid;padding-left:1.0ex">In another thread from 2008, Chris made an important observation about OSIS<br>
Scope.<br>
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It's also a little ambiguous.<br>
How many books are included in the scope Gen-Rev? 66? 73?<br>
It's always depended on context.<br>
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But as we have added av11n since then, this worry may no longer be critical.<br>
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David<br>
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