<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Troy A. Griffitts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scribe@crosswire.org" target="_blank">scribe@crosswire.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Stephan,<br>
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Firefox OS is the only platform I know that doesn't allow 'native' binaries to be installed and many other platforms all started with this same concept and conceded shortly before or after release. I am confident it will change or FirefoxOS will be irrelevant (not necessarily related options). It is my opinion that all programming for all applications in the whole world should not be restricted to javascript+html/css.<br>
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Now, having said this, I use javascript+html/css all the time and would like a more native approach to building SWORD applications in this environment, hence a javascript interface via Cordova.<br>
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Not sure what you mean by "the web", but there are very few client-side-only (only client-side javascript+html/css) applications on "the web" (none that I can think of, but I've been told they exist).<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div style>If you count an application that pulls data from the server, then stores it locally for access, probably the only semi-prominent one I am aware of is Amazon's Kindle browser app. It will store data in local browser-side storage media (e.g. window.localStorage, IndexedDB, or whichever other choice they went with) for retrieval, reading and viewing on the browser side.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>GMail also has an offline mode for its interface allowing this as well, where it will queue up messages to be sent, etc in some form of local storage until a connection is reestablished.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I've heard about other projects built just to demonstrate this technology, but those are the only two real-life implementations I have heard of. Most Google Chrome extensions also fit into this category, although they can leverage C++ libraries by means of the NPAPI and successor interfaces. I haven't seen any that do so.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>A client-side Sword application could do something similar. I had begun work on such an app at one point. However, in order to fetch data, a native client-side JavaScript implementation would be much better off leveraging the existing technologies - like localStorage and IndexedDB - for local storage and retrieval and downloading the requested materials from a remote server that offered them up in an appropriate format. The Sword format is poorly designed for client-side JavaScript access. But the Sword library, either through bindings into Python or Perl or through directly writing a C-based application or using Java bindings or JSword could easily be made to serve up data in an XML format (imagine that!) or JSON (personally, I believe this is better for web-based transport) which can then be cached on the local side.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>At that point, though, you're talking about something which is largely a port of Sword into JavaScript rather than just a client. It would need to be capable of understanding and parsing input and transforming that into the appropriate values for a key-value store in order to retrieve the rendered data.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>--Greg</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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When FirefoxOS decides to write their system libraries in javascript, then I will respect their decision to not allow other developers to link to native libraries. :)<br>
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Anyway, all this to say, practically, I hope a Cordova SWORD extension will give 95% of the people what they want: the ability to write a SWORD application using purely javascript+html/css, and for their application to run reasonably well on any platform supported by Cordova.<br>
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Hope this is taken lightheartedly,<br>
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Troy<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On 05/07/2013 04:34 PM, Stephan wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
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If it's interesting for your efforts, my plan for extending Bishop is to<br>
make the C++ engine available via Apache Cordova. This is more<br>
attractive now that Cordova has expanded beyond a exclusively a mobile<br>
platform.<br>
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But you still need to make a native plugin, right? I thought of making an app for e.g. FirefoxOS or "the web". There you need a pure Javascript solution.<br>
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--Stephan<br>
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