Peter, please temper your judgement with mercy. Your claims here are neither correct nor fair.<br><br>On Friday, January 4, 2013, Peter von Kaehne wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 16:49 -0500, Andrew Thule wrote:<br>
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It is clear. Your lack of respect for what is expressed in the conf file<br>
re Distribution license is your problem and not a problem of lack of<br>
clarity on our side. It is up to you to read and act upon (or rather<br>
refrain from acting) instead of us spoon feeding you (or you to demand<br>
such spoon feeding.<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The belief that Crosswire's license to distribute the ISV text was based upon what was contained within the isv.conf. It was not unreasonable for me to conclude therefore that additional contributions to the module would fall under the same terms. Clearly when Nic asked about updating the module, he apparently believed the same as I - specifically mentioning the OT.</div>
<div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Perhaps, but lack of clarity on licensing constaint isn't doing this project, or its volunteers any good. <span style="font-size:small;line-height:normal">The actual language of the </span><span style="font-size:small;line-height:normal" dir="ltr">license doesn't need to be modified for the wiki to be expanded.</span></div>
<br><div>I've already answered this, yet still, you stand my accuser, providing no answer to my defence. Please don't make it seem like my offer to help was a lack of respect, or unreasonable. That is simply a perversion of truth.</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I do strongly suggest that we will _not_ expand the Wiki. The licenses<br>
in the conf file are legal language, often written by the publisher's<br>
lawyers and can only be ignored wilfully and maliciously or by way of<br>
progressed and blind idiocy.<br><br></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Trying to second guess this legal language by creating a wiki page<br>
restating in our own words the content of licensing pages, explaining<br>
the often huge variability etc is liable to create confusion, confusion<br>
which then would be our responsibility.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>No ones tried to second guess any legal language. That unfounded claim is just silly (and apparently being driven by a grudge). Do you deny the ISV is currently being distributed by Crosswire, or that interest was shown by others in seeing it updated. Is there anything anywhere that suggests additional changes to that module are not currently permitted? Are there any reasonable grounds to show that an offer to provide an update to the ISV inline with the original request was unwarranted?</div>
<div><br></div><div>What's causing confusion is the distorted way you are portraying my actions and motives.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The licenses we have vary wildly. While we have endeavoured to put<br>
standard descriptive sentences on modules, this has not happened<br>
universally and many modules have individually written copyright<br>
statements. FWIW, this will also make script driven partial mirroring<br>
impossible or at least rather difficult.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>Well, that's patently false. As long as the .conf files accurately reflect their licenses appropriately, and those licenses remain honoured, it is a trivial thing to demonstrate accurate mirror synchronization (I can demonstrate this now)</div>
<div><br></div><div><span style>I thought the goal was </span><span style></span><span style dir="ltr">to digitally propagate the Word of God as much as possible while still meeting a moral and legal obligation to safeguard copyright? Subtle hints of oligarchy manifesting itself as enthusiastic polemics against those offering help makes it seem otherwise; almost as though t</span><span style>he goal here to stock-pile a pseudo-public repertoire of heavily licensed texts in the name of CrossWire.org, <span></span>alone for the benefit of select few.</span></div>
<div><br></div><div><span style></span>The dominion of trust, more than technology, is the impediment here. Ultimately, it comes down to the project's true purposes.</div><div><br></div><div>~A</div><div><br></div>