Hi Greg,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Greg Hellings <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:greg.hellings@gmail.com">greg.hellings@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I have pursued the avenue of docx -> Bible conversion in the past and,<br>
allow me to state unequivocally, it is incredibly complex. The sheer<br>
number of ways to mark up the same item and material makes any sort of<br>
attempt at such a conversion almost impossible to conceive. I never<br>
completed the project (my apologies to David for that), but I did get<br>
so far as to have the base text working in SWORD. However, headings<br>
were in the wrong places, foot notes were acknowledged but not<br>
present, and many other things were very wrong with the results I<br>
produced. Not to mention that the parsing was highly dependent upon<br>
that one text and the manner in which its editor had elected to markup<br>
his works. I have since come into possession of better tools which<br>
would make some parts of the process easier, but by no means would it<br>
be simple.<br></blockquote><div><br>I'm not surprised. I don't know how long it took Logos to develop their PBB and how many programmers were involved, but I do know it was originally tentatively planned for 2010. As you say, I think a big part of the problem is the number of ways a thing can be represented as (plus the general problem of trying to map from presentation to meaning - it's also possible that Logos has a more presentational format than you are targetting). I think Logos handles things like verses using pre-defined styles, but I've only played with it, not read the documentation.<br>
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Producing a general book might have better results, but it would still<br>
be a monumental undertaking for anyone who wanted to tackle it. I am<br>
up to my ears right now in other projects or I might consider it.<br>
Also, I lack any sort of source texts which would make it worthwhile<br>
for myself to undertake the project.<br></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br><br>Jon<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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--Greg<br>
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On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Benjamin Misja <<a href="mailto:alvanx@googlemail.com">alvanx@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> The new PBB feature sounds exciting and I will definitely see if I can<br>
> integrate some papers and additional bible translations into my Logos library.<br>
><br>
> I would think that having a comparable feature for making SWORD modules would<br>
> give a huge boost to both the available amount of books and community<br>
> participation. I think SWORD should make tools like this available to the<br>
> community at any cost. It would take making modules out of the hands of those<br>
> who know at least regular expressions and some programming language and put it<br>
> into the hands of anybody who would want to make a module. I know I'd be<br>
> making a lot of them if only I could! It would make SWORD so much cooler and<br>
> more dynamic. ;-)<br>
><br>
> Just my humble opinion,<br>
><br>
> Ben<br>
><br>
><br>
> Am Sonntag, 14. August 2011, 23:28:39 schrieb Jonathan Morgan:<br>
>> I don't usually comment on competing products, but I thought the new<br>
>> (long-expected) Logos Personal Book Builder was worth commenting on. You<br>
>> can find a post about it at<br>
>> <a href="http://blog.logos.com/2011/08/personal-book-builder-the-inside-scoop/" target="_blank">http://blog.logos.com/2011/08/personal-book-builder-the-inside-scoop/</a>. The<br>
>> main difference from most software is the fact that books are built by<br>
>> importing a docx file rather than entering any text into an editor, which<br>
>> hopefully means minimal work to make it happen. The created books can then<br>
>> just be shared as you wish, even through the main Logos servers.<br>
>><br>
>> I personally do not intend to do anything about this, but I thought it worth<br>
>> mentioning to see what others thought of the idea. Certainly difficulties<br>
>> converting the text into a usable form seem to crop up quite a bit for<br>
>> SWORD, and we have no knowledge of how many people just give up without<br>
>> asking (I know there is a project to work with OpenOffice to create<br>
>> Genbooks, but I have never used it and so do not know how capable and how<br>
>> automatic it is).<br>
>><br>
>> Thoughts?<br>
>><br>
>> Jon<br>
><br>
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