<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm replying to an email from 6 months ago, but I've been terribly behind on email lately. :(</div><div><br></div><div>But I was thinking about unlocking of modules and the like recently, and stumbled upon this email.</div><div><br></div><div>Background info is that PocketSword now supports multiple module repositories and unlocking of modules. However, when you download the NET Bible that is locked, I can't figure out how to tell the user where they should go in order to buy an unlock key. Hence it may be a little confusing in PocketSword for some users? Do we need to add a field in locked modules that contains the URL the user should be directed to if they wish to purchase an unlock code?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, ybic</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>nic... :)</div><div><br></div><div>ps: disclaimer: PocketSword currently has a bug in it where users who haven't upgraded to iOS 4 can't enter their unlock code. I'm going to work on this today and the fix will be in PocketSword v1.3.2!</div><br>
<br><div><div>On 18/02/2010, at 3:21 PM, Nic Carter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi David,</div><div><br></div><div>Troy is 100% correct, and PocketSword does have the functionality to use additional repositories, it's just that I haven't exposed that to the user :)</div><div><br></div><div>By the time PocketSword will support unlocking modules & the like, it will also support additional repositories, so please don't seek to move your modules simply for PocketSword's sake.</div><div><br></div><div>You've given me a good goal for v1.3: making all this work :)</div><div><br></div><div>sorry for any confusion, thanks for the reply!</div><div><br></div><div>ybic</div><div> nic... :)</div><div><br>(sent from my iPhone, hence this email is brief!)</div><div><br>On 18/02/2010, at 15:09, "David Austin (bghp)" <<a href="mailto:daustin@bible.org">daustin@bible.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
todd<br>
I think we are willing to have our modules in the crosswire Module
Repositories but when i talked to troy he said that it wasnt necessary
as all developments can get them from our links... If this is not the
case lets consider puting them on cross wire also.<br>
can you work this with nic and troy <br>
david <br>
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Nic Carter wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Todd,
Thanks for your comments about PocketSword :) Just to let you know, footnotes (along with Strong's Numbers & cross references) aren't implemented in PocketSword yet. My current focus for v1.2 is for Strong's Numbers (very very very much my number 1 requested feature!) and Morphology to get implemented. It makes sense to include footnotes in this release, too, but I am concerned that the more I throw into this release, the longer it will take to get this out the door -- it's just meant to be a very quick release schedule for Strong's only... ;)
I'll try to answer the questions Troy has posed:
1) PocketSword doesn't currently have the ability to "unlock" a module (the functionality is not exposed through the UI). There is a way around this, but no one has asked me any questions about this, so I have yet to write it up. This is on my list of things to do, but my lack of time has meant that it hasn't happened yet!
1) a) From an end-user's point of view, the best way of "buying" a module would be through an in-app purchase. However, Apple would take 30% of the sale this way. Buying through your site, you get all the proceeds (minus whatever fees you have to pay!).
2) Currently PocketSword doesn't have the ability to download from Module Repositories other than the CrossWire and the CrossWire Beta ones. It can't even download from the CrossWire Experimental repository. This is something that needs to be addressed, but #1 needs to be fixed before this can be fixed. Currently there is a way to manually install modules (it's called Module Maintainer Mode, and you can find more information about it on the PocketSword web site and the PocketSword user forums). When #1 is addressed, I plan on addressing #2 & then I will fix the repository issue. :(
3) Easy from my end. I don't need to do anything! :D I would need to examine the process of buying a module, so I know what the user is expecting and how to best make this work for the user, but #1 and #2 needs to be addressed first. :(
4) --I don't think this is a question I can answer-- [but I agree that it is confusing]
Thanks, and please feel free to email back with any questions on anything I have said. :)
Thanks, ybic
nic... :)
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On 18/02/2010, at 2:52 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
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It's good to hear from you. I'm forwarding your email on to our developers' forum to make others aware of the issue. Nic Carter has taken the lead on the PocketSword effort, with the original work done by Ian Wagner. From your email, these are the questions I'd like us to answer.
1) PocketSword, being a SWORD frontend, already has the ability to decipher your encrypted modules for which <a href="http://Bible.org/">Bible.org</a> sells unlock codes. Does PocketSword expose the ability for the user to enter a decipher code?
2) Does PocketSword display the About and Unlock information, which should include a link to your site where the unlock code can be purchased and obtained?
3) Might it be possible to detect the UserAgent from the iPhone browser, such that if/when PocketSword does display the unlock information to the user and they click to go to your unlock webpage, that you can display a unique page tuned for iPhone users?
4) Should we be more explicit somewhere about which versions of which NET modules go together and the differences between them? Where is the best place for information?
Responses should be sent Reply All, as Todd and David are not (to my knowledge) subscribed to our developers' forum. I'll push through any replies from them.
Troy
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<pre wrap="">Hey Troy it was good meeting you at ETS.
Dave Austin sent me the link to the new Cross PocketSword app on the
iPhone/iPod touch (I'm using the latter).
First things first,
I like the interface and all the sword references built in for
download. It's well done.
Secondly, I see that the NET is in there twice, one "limited notes"
and one "text-free". I'm a little confused what the difference is. I
don't see the fn markers on either one. is there supposed to be a
footnote marker and footnotes? I found under commentaries the "net
free notes" resource. There probably needs to be some sort of
warning/notice when someone downloads the limited text or limited
notes, that they need to download the other item.
Regarding a premium, full notes version, is there planned to be an
in-app purchase feature so someone can purchase the full notes? Or, if
not, is there a way we could share/sell links to someone to offer it?
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Date: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:43 PM
Subject: PocketSword: an iPhone Bible Study app
To: Todd Lingren <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:todd@bible.org"><</a><a href="mailto:todd@bible.org">todd@bible.org</a>>
Cc: Brian Seagraves <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bseagraves@bible.org"><</a><a href="mailto:bseagraves@bible.org">bseagraves@bible.org</a>>, Hampton Keathley
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todd can you test this and see if it gets both the free and premium netbible?
if not email troy griffitts <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:troy@crosswire.org"><</a><a href="mailto:troy@crosswire.org">troy@crosswire.org</a>>
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