I'd love to help as well. I know Java/GWT..<div><br clear="all">-Wes<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Yiguang Hu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yighu@yahoo.com">yighu@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>I would like to see what I can help. I know java/groovy/grails and GWT. </div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">
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<br>Message: 1<br>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:07:06 +0100<br>From: Chris Burrell <<a href="mailto:chris@burrell.me.uk" target="_blank">chris@burrell.me.uk</a>><br>To: J-Sword Developers Mailing List <<a href="mailto:jsword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank">jsword-devel@crosswire.org</a>>,<br>
"SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <<a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>><br>Cc: "tyndalestep.prog" <<a href="mailto:TyndaleSTEP.Prog@blogger.com" target="_blank">TyndaleSTEP.Prog@blogger.com</a>><br>
Subject: [sword-devel] New data, new CrossWire project, HELP WANTED<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:q2i8c0aba2c1004211207v54e868acn27cd0e2719538f85@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">q2i8c0aba2c1004211207v54e868acn27cd0e2719538f85@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br><br>*What is Tyndale STEP?*<br>Tyndale STEP is an offline and online Java web application which aims to<br>make ancient texts and maps as well as timeline data, genealogies, ...<br>
accessible to everyone, scholar and non-scholar alike, so that the Bible is<br>illuminated by its full ancient context. [see roadmap below]. Tyndale House<br>will also distribute the online version to pastors in the third world, who<br>
often can?t afford commercial Bible software.<br><br>A wiki page has
been set up here:<br><span><a href="http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep</a> which has a lot more</span><br>information!<br><br>*Who are we looking for?*<br>
We need lots of help!<br>? *Java developers*: this code base is mainly in Java so we can do with all<br>the help we can get!<br>? *User Interface designers*: there is currently a sketch of the user<br>interface, created more to prove a point. We need proper guidance to make<br>
the software as user friendly and rich as possible<br>? *Data harvesters*: Tyndale House could do with a few extra pairs of hands<br>to helpcollate the data and make it available to the wider CrossWire<br>community<br><br>
*How do I start?*<br>? Get in touch!<br>? Read through the wiki page:<br><a href="http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep</a><br>? Build the code
from:<br><span><a href="http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep_Build_Environment" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep_Build_Environment</a></span><br>? Check out our feature/bug repository:<br>
<span><a href="http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP</a></span><br>? Have a look at the proof of concept sketches at<br><span><a href="http://crosswire.org:8080/~chrisburrell/" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org:8080/~chrisburrell/</a> (including timelines and</span><br>
interlinears on strong-tagged Bibles)<br>? Peruse the blogs mentioned on the wiki to get a feel for the data and<br>programming<br><br>As you can see, there?s plenty to do!<br><br>*What does the roadmap look like?*<br><br>
*1st phase: build a multi-platform structure for standard Bible-study tools:<br>*<br>? Bible texts, including original languages, translations and interlinears<br>? Language aids,
including lookup-dictionaries concordance searches<br>? History tools, including an expandable timeline with scripture links<br>? Dictionary articles, culled from various sources and edited<br>*<br>*<br>*2nd phase: add detailed geographic, historic & linguistic data*<br>
? Gazetteer of all named places, with short articles and links to pictures<br>? Co-ordinates of identifiable places to GoogleEarth<br>? Map overlays of high-ref 1:20,000 maps of pre-urbanised Palestine<br>? Flexible timelines which can be altered at key points of uncertainty<br>
? Full-text lexicons linked to the lookup dictionaries in tagged texts<br><br>*3rd phase: add translation aids and links to modern publications*<br>? different possible translations for words and passages<br>? differences in manuscripts, with evidence for each variant<br>
? expositions in modern and older commentaries, articles and books<br><br>*4th phase: adds link to extra-biblical literature with
searching:*<br>? search other ancient literature for similar passages in a similar context<br>? look up Greek and Hebrew words in other ancient literature<br>? view ancient texts with translations where possible<br><br>
These tools will put centuries of research into the hands of non-scholars.<br>When the information is laid open like this, it is easy to see that the<br>Bible is well preserved and translated, reflecting historical events in real<br>
places, and dealing with issues current in the ancient and modern work<br>alike.<br><br>If you have any more questions or want to get involved, please do let me<br>know!<br>Chris<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>
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<<a href="mailto:jsword-devel@crosswire.org" target="_blank">jsword-devel@crosswire.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [sword-devel] New data, new CrossWire project, HELP<br> WANTED<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:j2w8c0aba2c1004211607sfe7f6d5fm24b94be1ff919134@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">j2w8c0aba2c1004211607sfe7f6d5fm24b94be1ff919134@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br><br>Hi Daniel<br><br>I'm copying David IB from Tyndale House who is part of Tyndale House and<br>leading the data side of the project.<br><br>A couple of emails have circulated on this previously on our blogs, which<br>
I've tried to capture (in part) on<br><span><a href="http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP-44" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP-44</a></span><br><span><a href="http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP-45" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP-45</a></span><br>
<br>I'm sure David IB will have more to input on this... I've copied his<br>original email below<br>Chris<br><br>==========================================<br>THis is the best lookup lexicon to use for Hebrew interlinear - it is tagged<br>
to Strongs, includes the pointed Hebrew and has an abbreviated BDB entry.<br><span>And the version downloadable from <a href="http://github.com/openscriptures" target="_blank">http://github.com/openscriptures</a> has even</span><br>
more corrections than mine. For all I know, it might finally be letter<br>perfect! THis version is also packaged in nice XML which can easily be<br>converted to any other DB format.<br><br>The equivalent lexicon at Crosswire for Greek is, I think, in a much better<br>
state, and didn't need all the work the Hebrew did.<br><br>The version of the tagged OT text at <a href="http://github.com/openscriptures" target="_blank">http://github.com/openscriptures</a> is<br>also in very good condition (prob better than the one at Crosswire). It<br>
appears to only contain PD data - ie it doesn't include the more complete<br>morphology data which is copyrighted.<br><br>David IB<br><br><br><br>On 21 April 2010 23:22, Daniel Owens <<a href="mailto:dhowens@pmbx.net" target="_blank">dhowens@pmbx.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>> Chris,<br>><br>> I am not qualified to contribute code (though I lurk on sword-devel because<br>> of my module-creating disposition), but I am involved in producing content<br>> for the very purpose you mention. By the way, if you are at Tyndale House<br>
> now, you may know Daniel Block. He is my PhD mentor at Wheaton College.<br>><br>> There are two content areas with which I am involved and would be happy to<br>> collaborate on. One is Greek and Hebrew lexica.
Currently at<br>> <a href="http://www.textonline.org" target="_blank">www.textonline.org</a> we are involved in collaboratively producing a modern<br>> replacement for Strongs. We're starting with a Strongs base but hope to<br>
> provide a basic and up-to-date modern equivalent to Holladay for Hebrew or<br>> Newman for Greek, except that they will be released under a creative commons<br>> license. The challenge is finding people to contribute quality entries with<br>
> little or no possibility of accolades in the guild of biblical studies (and<br>> certainly no money!). The other project is a collaboratively produced<br>> morphologically tagged Hebrew text (see <a href="http://www.OpenScriptures.org" target="_blank">www.OpenScriptures.org</a>). For that<br>
> we are looking at Django and Pinax as the applications for collaborating on<br>> putting together the data. For me, the purpose of this is to fill a void of<br>>
content for SWORD in order to serve the global church.<br>><br>> I notice that full-text lexicons are part of the second phase of your plan.<br>> Is there any way we can begin to collaborate on that? I am open to your<br>
> suggestions.<br>><br>> Daniel<br>><br>> On 4/21/2010 2:07 PM, Chris Burrell wrote:<br>><br>>> *What is Tyndale STEP?*<br>>><br>>> Tyndale STEP is an offline and online Java web application which aims to<br>
>> make ancient texts and maps as well as timeline data, genealogies, ...<br>>> accessible to everyone, scholar and non-scholar alike, so that the Bible is<br>>> illuminated by its full ancient context. [see roadmap below]. Tyndale House<br>
>> will also distribute the online version to pastors in the third world, who<br>>> often can?t afford commercial Bible software.<br>>><br>>> A wiki page has been set up here:<br>>> <a href="http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep</a> which has a lot more<br>
>> information!<br>>><br>>> *Who are we looking for?*<br>>> We need lots of help!<br>>> ? *Java developers*: this code base is mainly in Java so we can do with<br>>> all the help we can get!<br>
>> ? *User Interface designers*: there is currently a sketch of the user<br>>> interface, created more to prove a point. We need proper guidance to make<br>>> the software as user friendly and rich as possible<br>
>> ? *Data harvesters*: Tyndale House could do with a few extra pairs of<br>>> hands to helpcollate the data and make it available to the wider CrossWire<br>>> community<br>>><br>>> *How do I start?*<br>
>> ? Get in touch!<br>>> ? Read through the wiki page:<br>>> <a href="http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep</a><br>>> ? Build the code from:<br>
>> <a href="http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep_Build_Environment" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep_Build_Environment</a><br>>> ? Check out our feature/bug repository:<br>
>> <a href="http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP</a><br>>> ? Have a look at the proof of concept sketches at<br>>> <a href="http://crosswire.org:8080/~chrisburrell/" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org:8080/~chrisburrell/</a> <<br>
<span>>> <a href="http://crosswire.org:8080/%7Echrisburrell/" target="_blank">http://crosswire.org:8080/%7Echrisburrell/</a>> (including timelines and</span><br>>> interlinears on strong-tagged Bibles)<br>>><br>
>> ? Peruse the blogs
mentioned on the wiki to get a feel for the data and<br>>> programming<br>>><br>>> As you can see, there?s plenty to do!<br>>><br>>> *What does the roadmap look like?*<br>>><br>>> */1st phase: build a multi-platform structure for standard Bible-study<br>
>> tools:/*<br>>> ? Bible texts, including original languages, translations and interlinears<br>>> ? Language aids, including lookup-dictionaries concordance searches<br>>> ? History tools, including an expandable timeline with scripture links<br>
>> ? Dictionary articles, culled from various sources and edited<br>>> */<br>>> /*<br>>> */2nd phase: add detailed geographic, historic & linguistic data/*<br>>> ? Gazetteer of all named places, with short articles and links to pictures<br>
>> ? Co-ordinates of identifiable places to GoogleEarth<br>>> ? Map overlays of high-ref 1:20,000 maps of
pre-urbanised Palestine<br>>> ? Flexible timelines which can be altered at key points of uncertainty<br>>> ? Full-text lexicons linked to the lookup dictionaries in tagged texts<br>>><br>>> */3rd phase: add translation aids and links to modern publications/*<br>
>> ? different possible translations for words and passages<br>>> ? differences in manuscripts, with evidence for each variant<br>>> ? expositions in modern and older commentaries, articles and books<br>
>><br>>> */4th phase: adds link to extra-biblical literature with searching:/*<br>>> ? search other ancient literature for similar passages in a similar<br>>> context<br>>> ? look up Greek and Hebrew words in other ancient literature<br>
>> ? view ancient texts with translations where possible<br>>><br>>> These tools will put centuries of research into the hands of non-scholars.<br>>> When the
information is laid open like this, it is easy to see that the<br>>> Bible is well preserved and translated, reflecting historical events in real<br>>> places, and dealing with issues current in the ancient and modern work<br>
>> alike.<br>>><br>>> If you have any more questions or want to get involved, please do let me<br>>> know!<br>>> Chris<br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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