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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think that at first we should focus on
the basics. Keep the two menu system and verify that we have a solid base.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Then, we can make the product have more
bells and whistles. We could use compile switches and compile the SmartPhone
with two menus and others with the more complex. Or, we can code to check if we
are on a SmartPhone or not. Then, we could either have two menu systems in the
code and switch accordingly, or we can allow via a configure screen the Pocket
PC/Mobile Professional users to choose between the two menu and the more
complex menu.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But, let’s get the bugs worked out
and get SwordReader to the 1.0.0 level.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Al<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> David Trotz [mailto:dtrotzjr@crosswire.org] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:45
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> SWORD Developers'
Collaboration Forum<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [sword-devel]
SwordReader PocketPC and SmartPhone CAB files.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>SonWon wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Barry Drake wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi David .........<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>David Trotz wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Certainly lets discuss this further. I would like to hear others opinions as well; including Albert Sites and Barry Drake.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>If we diverge to two separate menus we need to implement some way to keep them in sync, so that when a smartphone developer adds a menu item reflecting some new feature the windows mobile devs get the menu automatically as well, and visa versa.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I think it's just fine. It's exactly what I would have done, and I <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>don't think we ought to go for two different interfaces. This keeps the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>whole thing simple - and it is intuitive and works well. It also gives <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>a nice uncluttered text screen!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I'll be disappointed if I have to use my Windows Mobile device like a <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>SmartPhone. I paid the extra money to have the extra functionality and <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>desire to use that functionality. I think it would be easy to give the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>user an option as mentioned in a previous post. Hopefully someone else <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>will agree with me :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>That's not a fair statement ;-) If you look at many
apps that you run on your windows mobile device, you will find that at least
50% of them do the 2 menu system, especially those that have both the
smartphone and pocketpc support. But John, I will agree with you that having a
more complex menu available would be nice. <br>
<br>
So this is what I propose (actually you already made a mention of this): Let's
make the two menu system default out of the box, which will be our official
menu where every single command will be guaranteed to exist, and let's allow
for an alternate menu system available through the preferences. I personally
won't be spending much time right now to implement this, I want to focus on a
few other areas first. You are free to take it on if you like John. <br>
<br>
My only concern is that SwordReader grows so complicated that it is hard to
use. If you take a look at Bible Reader by OliveTree you will find a very nice
bible program but at times overly complex w/ 2 fully customizable menu bars.
While I love the flexibility, I can see someone like my wife getting frustrated
with the complexity. Now in contrast if you look at Palm Bible+ you will see a
simple yet elegant interface. This is the interface I want to try to imitate. <br>
<br>
In Christ,<br>
David Trotz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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