Playful learning is great, but when you get down to it the real way to learn from the bible is to sit down and read it. I don't know how much a person will get from a little bit here and there. You may learn some but the real message is not in a line here or there it is spread out threw a book.
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 22, 2008 12:34 AM, avolunteer DrStovallFoundation <<a href="mailto:pythondrs@yahoo.com">pythondrs@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Developers,<br>The OLPC greatest innovation is educational not technical. I<br>previously posted that OLPC had given us several technical<br>innovations and imitations. India heard OLPC and now thinks<br>they will build a $10 (that's right ten US dollar) computer in
<br>India. But Rapier and the best Sword implementations are a<br>looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong llllllllllong<br>way from being anything near the educational quality worthy of<br>the OLPC designers. I could and should write another book
<br>about this. But there are many other things which I could and<br>should do. I'll just say this. The OLPC was designed to<br>enable "playful learning." Nearly 30 years ago, I made Paul's<br>Gramcord run on the 1 MhZ floppy disk system that was sold to
<br>Theological schools. It was a far better Bible study program<br>than any of the Sword interfaces and is still being used in<br>many of the best theological schools. But it does not do what<br>the Lord has laid on my heart and it is not "playful learning."
<br>Sword serves a great purpose for mature minds who want to stay<br>in touch with the Holy Scriptures. I am thrilled to have<br>Rapier on my N800. It would serve a very few children better<br>than a book would. But the majority of this world's children
<br>need "playful learning." Please see <a href="http://laptop.org" target="_blank">laptop.org</a> for more<br>information and also Google for "playful learning."<br>A Volunteer<br><br>PS Pierre knows how to get on with people. You may want to
<br>reread the following. Especially the part about getting as<br>many people as possible to either do it your way or their way.<br><br>--- Pierre Amadio <<a href="mailto:pierre.amadio@laposte.net">pierre.amadio@laposte.net
</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Hi there.<br>><br>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 11:12:03AM -0500, Zachary M. Oglesby wrote:<br>> > I have done a little reading on this and would recommend that people read<br>> > the following. Also I think a good starting point would be to adapt the
<br>> > Rapier code and see if we can get it to work with Sugar. In the long run I<br>> > think it would be great if we could get this to work in the ebook mode that<br>> > the XO has to save battery life, but one step at a time.
<br>><br>> I have zero experience in project management, but still, i think the<br>> first step to take would be to check out what's already existing, just<br>> in case there's already something cool, or not, and to get in touch with
<br>> all project, or at least most of them, in order to try to have as many<br>> people as possible in a single project.<br>><br>> A quick search show:<br>><br>> <a href="http://xobible.com/" target="_blank">
http://xobible.com/</a><br>> plan to use bibletime as a base and to add some mp3 feature on top of<br>> that.<br>> Sounds interesting to me, i just don't get why they pick a qt project<br>> and not a gtk one (if i recall correctly, the olpc is mainly gtk based).
<br>><br>> <a href="http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=1425.msg11011" target="_blank">http://olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=1425.msg11011</a><br>> Other people also wanting to make a bible based activity.
<br>><br>> <a href="http://bibledit.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://bibledit.sourceforge.net/</a><br>> Changelog states it runs on olpc.<br>><br>> I'm sure there are others. Anybody know what is the main olpc community
<br>> mailing list/web forum ? It would be a good idea to check there.<br>><br>> Then, i think we should have a clear idea of what is planned. Is it a<br>> nice bible study tool that would run on an olpc, or is it a nice olpc
<br>> activity that will take advantage of what the olpc offer ?<br>><br>> I think if the first goal is targeted, using an already featurfull<br>> program is the way to go (and i would think gnome sword is the best
<br>> candidate here as it's gtk based. I do not know if libgnome is available<br>> on olpc though. Not being able to compile it without libgnome was what<br>> drove me to start rapier).<br>><br>> If the second goal is targeted, then creating something from scratch in
<br>> python (so the "read the source" feature of the olpc would be possible)<br>> seems the way to go. I would advise not to start with rapier itself, as the<br>> code is really not that good:<br>><br>
> - It does not use libglade that should be available in the olpc<br>> (it is sort of available in maemo, but i choosed not to used it anyway<br>> because i intended to make something really simple and wanted to wait
<br>> untill gazpacho was ready for hildon stuff before playing with glade<br>> file).<br>><br>> - Internationalisation is nearly not existing, and it's more easy to get<br>> that correctly when prepared from the beginning.
<br>><br>> - The download/manage module is awfull. (Why is there no python wrapper<br>> for the InstallMgr class ? :-) ).<br>><br>> If there is a clear description of what is needed, a rewrite of an<br>> rapier like olpc activity starting from scratch is just a matter of a couple
<br>> of weeks and would save time later on if started on solid ground.<br>><br>> So, is there anybody who feels like gathering the existing, find the most<br>> appropriate place to get in touch with the olpc community and make a
<br>> summary of what he found to us and all similar project ?<br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> sword-devel mailing list: <a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">
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