<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <div>Hi Manfred,</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I understand your thoughts on the subject. I didn't knew about all problems (I only knew about some of them) and I didn't want to sound critical about the way you and Will have been conducting the development.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I agree with you that the app should have a new look&feel too. And I absolutely love the idea of including ability to work with all those kinds of modules. Count me on the boat, at least for testing. If you feel I can do more than that, please ask and I'll do my best.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Another thing I can possibly do is to give ideas. You mention that a lot of things need to be discussed, so let's start: have you thought about using the same name for the app? MacSword seems a good name and I believe there is a WinSword too. Couldn't we use the same name? Apple did just that with iMovie, remember? It's a new app, but the same name. Is the name registered in any kind by someone? I beleive this could make the app popularity grow rapidly. What are your thoughts about it?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Jónatas</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><br><div><div>Em 2007/09/08, às 23:02, Manfred Bergmann escreveu:</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">Hi Jónatas.</span></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>The problem with MacSword is that it is not so easy to add new features and enhance the application.</div><div>I've spend many many hours over the last one and a half years to cleanup the code. Actually a lot under the hood has been done and some bugs have been fixed.</div><div>After the compiler flag -Wall has been turned on, over 500 compiler warnings were across the whole code and over 300 of them have been fixed. To be honest I can't continue with MacSword, it is just boring.</div><div>I want a clean and good design and clean code, this is not possible anymore with MacSword.</div><div>The new application uses Cocoa bindings where possible and also will be able to show images, maps, animations and has easier text rendering. All types of books should be creatable by the user.</div><div>I'm also thinking of a iTunes/Numbers/Pages style like GUI design which is state of the art of Mac applications.</div><div>Minimum requirement should be Mac OSX Tiger.</div><div>Just to give you an overview of what I and maybe also the others have in mind.</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>Manfred</div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br><div><div>Am 08.09.2007 um 23:15 schrieb Jónatas Ferreira:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b></b></font></div></blockquote><div>Hi Manfred,</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I'm very pleased to hear that something new is being started for the Mac. I hope you can reunite a good workgroup. I doubt I can help building the app because I'm not a programmer. But I can certainly help with testing. </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I've used MacSword for 3 years now and I'd love to see it evolve, but I'm very concerned about it being almost dead for a while now (I mean it hasn't been evolving).</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Yours,</div><div>Jónatas Ferreira</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>De:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Manfred Bergmann <<a href="mailto:bergmannmd@yahoo.de">bergmannmd@yahoo.de</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Data:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">8 de setembro de 2007 15:14:38 GMT+01:00</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Para:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">SWORD Collaboration Forum Developers' <<a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Assunto:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>[sword-devel] New development on Mac</b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Responder A:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <<a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Hi.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">I want to starting a new frontend on the Mac platform and would like to invite everyone who is willing to help.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">From UI developers to icon designers everyone is welcome to participate.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Please write to my email address if you are interested.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">The MacSword application has gotten quite old by the time. It still has Jaguar support which is fine but now that Leopard is coming, the time is right to start something new with new features and new technologies.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Some things like the Sword backend and the SearchKit search/indexing stuff can be taken from MacSword.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">The backend has been cleaned up to make it KVO kompliant.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Additionally a new backend wrapper to Sword InstallMgr has been created and is working.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Best regards,</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Manfred</font></div><br></blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sword-devel mailing list:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org">sword-devel@crosswire.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel">http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page</div></blockquote></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div><br></body></html>