[sword-devel] Support for morph segmentation in front-ends?

Thu Mar 27 08:47:38 EDT 2025

I don’t know what it really does either.

If the osis module has <seg .*type=“(x-)?morph”.*>, it should have the option and not otherwise.

> On Mar 26, 2025, at 12:43 AM, Peter von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> If that is an error, it may well precede Dominique’s versions but is likely something I have introduced when I conceived the whole automatic module making process including confmaker.pl. 
> 
> I think - and I admit that here - I suffered then and now - under a sense of clarity about this particular feature. 
> 
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> From: sword-devel <sword-devel-bounces at crosswire.org> on behalf of David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 9:17 pm
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> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Support for morph segmentation in front-ends?
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> 
> I suspect an error in Dom’s conf maker script accounts for the filter’s presence in CPDV.
> 
> Those seg elements shown in bold are unrelated to morph segmentation.
> 
> Not every seg element has that function!
> 
> I was once told that one JSword based app (STEP Bible?) supports morpheme segmentation and does so by displaying odd and even segments in two different colours.
> 
> That’s what might make sense for an Ancient Hebrew module such as the WLC.
> 
> I could envisage a use for the same filter for Bible translations in languages with a writing system that has no space between [most] words, though we don’t yet have a fully fledged example of one with suitable OSIS markup.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 20:30, Karl Kleinpaste <karl at kleinpaste.org <mailto:On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 20:30, Karl Kleinpaste <<a href=>> wrote:
> David Haslam wrote:
> Might Xiphos be enhanced to implement this in future?
> 
> I currently see 3 modules that claim this:
> 
> cpdv.conf:GlobalOptionFilter=OSISMorphSegmentation
> hinerv.conf:GlobalOptionFilter=OSISMorphSegmentation
> turntb.conf:GlobalOptionFilter=OSISMorphSegmentation 
> 
> All Xiphos can do is turn on the option so that whatever Sword does, re: rendering of that option, will happen. Xiphos provides that via context menu → Module Options → Morpheme Segmentation. 
> 
> Xiphos uses XHTML filters. diatheke shows that the engine doesn't render <seg> content in normal output: 
> 
> mod2imp CPDV | grep -A1 'Genesis 1:1$'
> $$$Genesis 1:1
> <div type="x-milestone" subType="x-preverse" sID="pv1"/><title type="x-description">God creates Heaven and Earth, and all things therein, in six days.</title> <div eID="gen6" type="introduction"/> <div sID="gen7" type="x-p"/><div type="x-milestone" subType="x-preverse" eID="pv1"/>In the beginning, God created heaven and earth.<note placement="foot"><reference osisRef="Gen.1.1" type="annotateRef">1:1</reference>Heaven was created first, then earth. The creation of angels also occurred with the creation of heaven. The creation of earth is really the creation of the universe, and subsequently earth.<seg type="x-usfm-fl">(Conte)</seg></note><div eID="gen7" type="x-p"/> 
> 
> diatheke -b CPDV -o M -f xhtml -k g.1.1
> <html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html" charset="UTF-8" lang="en" xml:lang="en"/>
> <style type="text/css">        .divineName { font-variant: small-caps; }
>         .wordsOfJesus { color: red; }
>         .transChange { font-style: italic; }
>         .transChange.transChange-supplied { font-style: italic; }
>         .transChange.transChange-added { font-style: italic; }
>         .transChange.transChange-tenseChange::before { content: '*'; }
>         .transChange.transChange-tenseChange { font-style: normal; }
>         .transChange:lang(zh) { font-style: normal; text-decoration: dotted underline; }
>         .overline { text-decoration: overline; }
>         .indent1 { margin-left: 1em; }
>         .indent2 { margin-left: 2em; }
>         .indent3 { margin-left: 3em; }
>         .indent4 { margin-left: 4em; }
>         abbr { &:hover{ &:before{ content: attr(title); } } }
>         .small-caps { font-variant: small-caps; }
>         .otPassage { font-variant: small-caps; }
>         .selah { text-align: right; width: 50%; margin: 0; padding: 0; }
>         .acrostic { text-align: center; }
>         .colophon {font-style: italic; font-size: small; display: block; }
>         .rdg { font-style: italic; }
>         .inscription {font-variant: small-caps; }
>         .catchWord {font-style: bold; }
>         .x-p-indent {text-indent: 1em; }
>     </style></head><body>Genesis 1:1: <span style="font:Gentium;" >In the beginning, God created heaven and earth.<br />
> </span><br />
> (CPDV)
> </body></html> 
> 
> I don't know what a frontend is supposed to do with it. I see no content as delivered, and I see no indication of a footnote-style tag marker that would say a UI could do something more with tags.
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