[sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents
David Haslam
dfhdfh at protonmail.com
Tue Mar 18 03:21:16 EDT 2025
We don't hide U+2019 in any other context.
It's use in the KJV for possessives does not hinder search!
Why the obsession with search, when it has no bearing on my semantic argument?
An elision mark is simply not an accent!!! Why is this so hard to understand?
We wouldn't hide U+2019 in French if we saw it used frequently as an elision mark!!!
Albeit most French modules to date simply use U+0027 (unlike our KJV).
Best regards,
David
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On Tuesday, March 18th, 2025 at 1:40 AM, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>> On Mar 17, 2025, at 5:24 PM, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My argument is simple & straightforward.
>
> Your argument is that display and search should have nothing to do with each other.
>
>> When you hide diacritics, you ought not to be hiding punctuation marks.
>>
>> Why is this so contentious?
>
> Software changes can have unintended consequences. It needs to be carefully considered.
>
>> In what world does how a module displays require that punctuation be hidden?
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> In a world where the filter is also used for search.
>
>> A quotation mark is not an accent!
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 21:06, DM Smith <[dmsmith at crosswire.org](mailto:On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 21:06, DM Smith <<a href=)> wrote:
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>>>> On Mar 17, 2025, at 4:01 PM, Karl Kleinpaste <karl at kleinpaste.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is, if search success depends on the specificity of whether accents or points are enabled, you're probably doing something wrong.
>>>
>>> Absolutely.
>>>
>>> What we are discussing is whether an apostrophe should be stripped out or not. The apostrophe on the keyboard is U+0027. The apostrophe in the Greek is recommended to be U+2019. They look nearly the same. There are a few other Unicode apostrophes that have the same appearance.
>>>
>>> If the apostrophe isn’t stripped out, then the user input and the text have to agree on which of the several it is. There is no way for the end user to know which. I end up copying from the text to make sure I have the right one.
>>>
>>> I believe the same filter that turns on and off the display of accents is used for searching. David is suggesting that the filter is taking out legitimate level 2 quotation marks from the display when it shouldn’t. I’m suggesting that it needs to remove them for the sake of the search.
>>>
>>> DM
>>
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