[sword-devel] SWORD: OSIS transChange and non-Roman scripts?

[Michael Johnson]

Wow! I had no idea we could specify CSS files for modules. Therefore, 
eBible.org doesn't have any modules that do, YET.

On 4/13/25 03:13, David Haslam wrote:
> Thanks Peter,
>
> The issue is that [most of] our module developers still seem 
> blissfully unaware of these possibilities, and thus our module release 
> script never (or rarely?) announces a CSS sheet as part of a module.
>
> Is there any working example of a module that uses a CSS in any of the 
> CrossWire repos?
>
> What about the associated repos in the MRL ?
> Does either eBible.org or IBT use them in any ?
>
> btw. Where are the CSS files stored?
> And can the same CSS file serve more than one module?
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
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> On Sunday, April 13th, 2025 at 2:02 PM, Peter von Kaehne 
> <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>> Hi David, you are out of date here by probably better part of a decade.
>>
>> What actually happens is that most/all rendering has been taken out 
>> of the engine and got replaced by CSS. The engine supplies 
>> semantically CSS styled XHTML corresponding to the OSIS semantics and 
>> supplies a standard CSS style sheet which replicates the previous 
>> hard coded styling.
>>
>> This CSS sheet can get both augmented and replaced, easily. There is 
>> a CSS sheet conf entry available to advise the engine of existence 
>> and location of the module CSS sheet.
>>
>> I am unaware of any module actually making use of it, but it is all 
>> there and it is easy to make use of it.
>>
>> The way to figure out which CSS elements need styling simply use the 
>> diatheke and ask for XHTML output of your module.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> Peter
>>
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>> *Subject:* [sword-devel] SWORD: OSIS transChange and non-Roman scripts?
>> As we're all aware, the SWORD engine renders in /italics/ text 
>> enclosed with a *transChange* element.
>>
>> Yet not all Bible translations are in a script that supports italics!
>>
>> IIRC, it was once suggested that Chinese modules that use *CJK 
>> ideograms* might possibly be render such text using _dotted underline_.
>>
>> Has this requirement ever been considered by developers?
>>
>> What about *Thai* for example?
>>
>> Were the translator to mark up added words in the *ThaiKJV* using 
>> *transChange*, how ought this text be suitably displayed in such a 
>> way as to make it appear /gently/ distinct?
>>
>> One possibility might be to render the text in a *grey font* rather 
>> than a *black font*, but any such change of colours also has to 
>> figure what to do when it's part of the words of Christ in a Red 
>> Letter Edition.
>>
>> Has there ever been a detailed technical discussion on this topic?
>>
>> I hadn't hitherto asked Philip Pope whether the *ThaiKJV* FoxPro 
>> database contains semantic indicators for /words added by the 
>> translators/, but as the translation is made _from the KJV_ rather 
>> than from the original languages, it does seem to me to be quite 
>> pertinent.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
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