[sword-devel] Licensing audit of SWORD for Fedora - sharing results with upstream

[Aaron Rainbolt]

I believe I do understand, and think that we have a good plan. Some 
users can't or don't want to use distro packages and want newer 
software, so your upstream repo would be helpful for them. Other users 
can't or don't want to use upstream third-party repos and want distro 
version upgrades to be more likely to work, and so the distro packages 
(which you would not be expected to help maintain) would be helpful for 
them. I don't see any reason why we shouldn't have both. If you'd like, 
I might even be able to help with packaging for the upstream repos.

(If it's any consolation, users will oftentimes go and get upstream 
packages and then come to distro package maintainers for help, so I get 
the frustration of users seeking support from the wrong places :P)

Aaron

On 10/6/23 03:12, Jaak Ristioja wrote:
> Please understand, that we might nevertheless decide to host our own 
> Fedora repository for BibleTime as well.
>
> BibleTime developers are not responsible for packages we did not 
> create ourselves, but when issues with these packages arise many users 
> still complain directly to us. Oftentimes they just ask for some newer 
> version of BibleTime to be packaged for their platform. Many 
> distributions also have restrictive packaging policies which prevent 
> introducing new (major) versions of packages to stable distribution 
> versions. Hosting our own repositories might help in that regard and 
> we would also not be tied to having to support older versions of 
> BibleTime we no longer can or wish to support. We have very limited 
> resources and can't afford to manage BibleTime within distribution 
> repositories.
>
> On 06.10.23 09:58, Aaron Rainbolt wrote:
>> No worries there, I would be doing all the work of managing BibleTime
>> within the Fedora repositories, the devs wouldn't have to do extra
>> work for that to happen.
>>
>> If the BibleTime developers are interested in hosting their own repos
>> for other distros, that's certainly their option (and a good idea in
>> my opinion), however having BibleTime directly in distribution repos
>> will obviously make it easier for end-users to install and use it, so
>> I'd like to make that happen by maintaining the package in Fedora. (I
>> also have experience with Debian packaging so if the current Debian
>> maintainer gives up on it, I might be able to help there too.)
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 1:42 AM Jaak Ristioja <jaak at ristioja.ee> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 05.10.23 20:59, Aaron Rainbolt wrote:
>>>> Thanks! If all of the comaintainers for Xiphos and BibleTime are 
>>>> also no
>>>> longer available or interested, I think it would be helpful if you 
>>>> could
>>>> go into https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xiphos and
>>>> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/bibletime and click the "Orphan"
>>>> button on those. I'll take them once that's done and should be able to
>>>> help keep them maintained.
>>>
>>> BibleTime would be interested in hosting their own package repositories
>>> for different distributions and their versions, which would be updated
>>> by the CI (see [1]) and perhaps be of low maintenance burden. We don't
>>> have the resources to commit to managing BibleTime packages under the
>>> umbrella of different distros.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]: https://github.com/bibletime/bibletime/issues/258
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