From lukesamuel at zoho.eu  Tue Jul  4 08:25:31 2023
From: lukesamuel at zoho.eu (Luke Sharkey)
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2023 13:25:31 +0100
Subject: [sword-devel] Adding local modules to Bishop (Android 13.0)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1688423088.1550556.sword-devel@crosswire.org>
References: <mailman.0.1688423088.1550556.sword-devel@crosswire.org>
Message-ID: <18920dd7438.126bc8940783017.2293326170535216256@zoho.eu>

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Hi,



I have not been able to add local modules to Bishop. I use the dialogue to add the modules, which results with no modules added, but no error message.



I am using zip files saved from the Crosswire website. I am not sure how to debug this, but I can do so if told.



(This follows a note on the Bishop google play / git pages)


Thanks,



Luke
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Wed Jul  5 11:38:13 2023
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2023 15:38:13 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Adding local modules to Bishop (Android 13.0)
In-Reply-To: <18920dd7438.126bc8940783017.2293326170535216256@zoho.eu>
References: <mailman.0.1688423088.1550556.sword-devel@crosswire.org>
 <18920dd7438.126bc8940783017.2293326170535216256@zoho.eu>
Message-ID: <Y_3E2d2HeFbKw14DhN8lKKetyXBGNgBv1z27QshGMrtbTG4qCvn5PDqNhcTugJpIadaUYocl2iNxooCCiJZlfWMeOqYnOPJD53ZPvaIX8m0=@protonmail.com>

Hi Luke,

Try contacting the developer via the GitHub project for Bishop.

https://github.com/scribe777/bishop

Best regards

David Haslam

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On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 13:25, Luke Sharkey <[lukesamuel at zoho.eu](mailto:On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 13:25, Luke Sharkey <<a href=)> wrote:

>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have not been able to add local modules to Bishop. I use the dialogue to add the modules, which results with no modules added, but no error message.
>
> I am using zip files saved from the Crosswire website. I am not sure how to debug this, but I can do so if told.
>
> (This follows a note on the Bishop google play / git pages)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Luke
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Wed Jul 12 06:17:18 2023
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 10:17:18 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=OSISExpandAbbreviations ?
Message-ID: <hmlRsin4GydEi1ShKvwhp77WTeilA1ScabSpB_37JG9hfvz-TukY5JuFdVb7Mqp1iaWcsuboN6pEqxSOtuCorbcfUWI24ugaqFrH5yRt9M0=@protonmail.com>

For SWORD (and JSword) developers to consider.

We have a suggestion for an enhancement to the SWORD engine that front-end developers might like to support eventually.

Specify in the CONF file the following configuration key:

GlobalOptionFilter=OSISAbbreviations

When toggled ON, the front-end should display the text in the expansion attribute in place of the text wrapped by the OSIS abbr element.

The example in the OSIS 2.1.1 Reference Manual is

<abbr expansion="Journal of Biblical Literature">JBL</abbr>

FWIW, DM Smith and I had already begun to make use of this in our eXperimental KJVX module back in 2017.

The first general opportunity to test it could be with the next release of the KJVA module, where (for the time being) only the DC books use an abbreviation "CHAP." in place of "CHAPTER" along with Roman numerals for chapter numbers.

cf. Text items in many note elements of the KJV also employ various abbreviations, including "Heb.", "Gr.", "Chal.", "LXX", "etc.", etc. 

A future update to the KJV module will roll out this markup wherever it was deemed potentially useful. It would be a shame to allow this enhancement to remain unused.


Best regards,

David

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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Fri Jul 14 04:52:16 2023
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 08:52:16 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] AndBible Extra repository?
Message-ID: <2PEhC2ap9hP3V3Ucsvxb8x8xyuaNMJtuJIOJzMfCNFD2eeE3Aj0YSuZj_Wc8Ds_o3Jxs8bQDm-CWFiF_h_zu5yOJ0zBxO0fGX-ZArLWaA78=@protonmail.com>

If someone could please supply the details for accessing the AndBible Extra repository (mentioned recently in connection with a BSBdraft module), then I will add them in our developers's wiki here:

https://wiki.crosswire.org/Official_and_Affiliated_Module_Repositories#AndBible_Extra

Then perhaps users of other front-end apps (besides AndBible itself) could install modules hosted therein.

cf. Manually adding a module source is certainly feasible in Xiphos (eg.)

Best regards,

David

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From tuomas.airaksinen at gmail.com  Sat Jul 15 09:05:33 2023
From: tuomas.airaksinen at gmail.com (Tuomas Airaksinen)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2023 16:05:33 +0300
Subject: [sword-devel] AndBible Extra repository?
In-Reply-To: <2PEhC2ap9hP3V3Ucsvxb8x8xyuaNMJtuJIOJzMfCNFD2eeE3Aj0YSuZj_Wc8Ds_o3Jxs8bQDm-CWFiF_h_zu5yOJ0zBxO0fGX-ZArLWaA78=@protonmail.com>
References: <2PEhC2ap9hP3V3Ucsvxb8x8xyuaNMJtuJIOJzMfCNFD2eeE3Aj0YSuZj_Wc8Ds_o3Jxs8bQDm-CWFiF_h_zu5yOJ0zBxO0fGX-ZArLWaA78=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACK9v-k8eJPJEh3HV711qgJzUt73HTQhGxDN=fgO1LxPKzGpcw@mail.gmail.com>

AndBible extra repository contains free modules from Xiphos repository.
Xiphos repository is/was not compatible with AndBIble (if I remember
correctly it's ftp or http only (AB supports only HTTPS)) so made this to
make modules available to AndBible users.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 11:52?AM David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:

> If someone could please supply the details for accessing the AndBible
> Extra repository (mentioned recently in connection with a BSBdraft module),
> then I will add them in our developers's wiki here:
>
>
> https://wiki.crosswire.org/Official_and_Affiliated_Module_Repositories#AndBible_Extra
>
> Then perhaps users of other front-end apps (besides AndBible itself) could
> install modules hosted therein.
>
> cf. Manually adding a module source is certainly feasible in Xiphos (eg.)
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
>


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From domcox at crosswire.org  Wed Jul 19 05:24:05 2023
From: domcox at crosswire.org (domcox at crosswire.org)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 05:24:05 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Module release: BSB
Message-ID: <20230719092405.4D58D120E66@mail.crosswire.org>

Dear All,

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded BSB
in the CrossWire (main) repository.

## Language:
English

## Description:
Berean Standard Bible

## Category:
Biblical Text

## Version:
This a new module. Version: 1.4

## What's new:
First public release

Many thanks to Timothy_Allen for the hard work.

We wish you enjoyable reading,
The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Fri Jul 21 13:02:20 2023
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 17:02:20 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] SWORD and type="x-split-#" where # is a numeric
 identifier?
Message-ID: <Ur2H-1W9DiIXMqgNvaYyN2TezYZAa8DzGKQjNZ6Y804KLe6xHdSBri4uPfeaQOxOOrgn4gIyIAyEqSk6QPVGg3mE1SEvkZOoj_QA17gWNHQ=@protonmail.com>

Another question for SWORD developers and all related front-end developers.

This is about an OSIS feature that is in use but that seems to have been neglected so far, unless I'm mistaken.

Is there any defined method whereby the SWORD engine can visually link the instances where a pair of words (in the same verse) have the same Strong's number but because they are a single word in the Hebrew or Greek, are also marked with the attribute type="x-split-#" where # is a unique numeric identifier? 

What might front-end developers do to support such a useful potential feature?

cf. The following wiki page does not mention this feature yet.
https://wiki.crosswire.org/Choosing_a_SWORD_program

Further question:

Are there any examples in a SWORD module in which more than two words have the same "x-split-#" identifier?

cf. The KJV module source text contains 7729 instances of the string "x-split" which (being an odd number) might indicate that there's at least one such triplet, unless there's an orphaned half of what should have been a pair.

Best regards,

David Haslam

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PS. Are my emails to sword-devel getting through and being considered.
Some of my past questions have elicited no responses.

From mcepl at cepl.eu  Fri Jul 21 17:17:11 2023
From: mcepl at cepl.eu (=?UTF-8?Q?Mat=C4=9Bj?= Cepl)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 23:17:11 +0200
Subject: [sword-devel] SWORD and type="x-split-#" where # is a numeric
 identifier?
References: <Ur2H-1W9DiIXMqgNvaYyN2TezYZAa8DzGKQjNZ6Y804KLe6xHdSBri4uPfeaQOxOOrgn4gIyIAyEqSk6QPVGg3mE1SEvkZOoj_QA17gWNHQ=@protonmail.com>
Message-ID: <slrnublten.e7d.mcepl@stitny.cepl.eu>

On 2023-07-21, 17:02 GMT, David Haslam wrote:
> PS. Are my emails to sword-devel getting through and being considered.
> Some of my past questions have elicited no responses.

I can read this perfectly clearly.

Best,

Mat?j
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https://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/, @mcepl at floss.social
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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sat Jul 22 04:19:24 2023
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 08:19:24 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Identifying ketiv/qere in OSIS Bible modules that
 already have Strong's numbers
Message-ID: <mMrXuHRGvxUkhxMyak0159hM3fuLqFpn3J4uAbqlq9yp-Kd0YG6uKKh8Th12vECyFAgzOIz8XhN4EhVyDk_tMYpjzaHmiqS--SoEUOyBFIY=@protonmail.com>

Another question for the SWORD developers...

This concerns modules for Bible translations rather than modules for the Hebrew Bible per se (such as the WLC, MAPM, OSHB, etc.)

Bible modules such as our 'flagship' KJV include OSIS markup for Strong's Hebrew numbers.

Currently, these have no additional information to indicate where the Strong's H-number is for a Qere or Ketiv.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qere_and_Ketiv

Our wiki page for OSIS Bibles gives no further guidance on this topic.
https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Bibles

In places with both a Ketiv and Qere in the Hebrew, the Strong's number of the KJV is often simply repeated, as Strong's dictionary is generally based upon the consonantal form of Hebrew words and word-stems.

In the few places with a Ketiv but no Qere
and the few places with a Qere but no Ketiv
there's also no indication in the OSIS markup! 

What might be a sensible way to identify when a Strong's number is for a Ketiv or a Qere?

Best regards,

David

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From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Mon Jul 24 15:05:56 2023
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 19:05:56 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Extended Strong's numbers and the SWORD engine!
Message-ID: <x0O7qgpL9DLvWf2k01Ps_nNnzq5RDcTh4H7zZNoLbvJnuD2T01YMsokwpelcVyO7wJpXW1HsyfxDivFNIxIFUitS7bRYVOEWwr-0SabSf6E=@protonmail.com>

SWORD developers:

Earlier today, I created this issue on our tracker. 

http://jira.crosswire.org/browse/API-254

This software bug requires your urgent attention.

Best regards,

David

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From domcox at crosswire.org  Wed Jul 26 06:11:25 2023
From: domcox at crosswire.org (domcox at crosswire.org)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 06:11:25 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Module release: KJV
Message-ID: <20230726101125.B045F120E84@mail.crosswire.org>

Dear All,

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded KJV
in the CrossWire (main) repository.

## Language:
English

## Description:
King James Version (1769) with Strongs Numbers and Morphology  and CatchWords

## Category:
Biblical Text

## Version:
This is an update. Version: 3.1

## What's updated:
- Updated the TR data in 5888 verses.
- Fix many errors with strong as G3688, should be G3588.
- Five locations where small caps is inappropriate, Exodus 28:36; 39:30, Deuteronomy 28:58, Jeremiah 23:6, Zechariah 14:20.
- Correction of rdg attribute type="alternative" to type="alternate".
- Fix multiple text issues (italics, spelling, ...).
- Correction of some errors in:
  - Psalm 80, Shoshannim?eduth ? Shoshannim?Eduth.
  - italics in Nahum 1:3, (hath).
  - missing red letter markup in Luke 11:2, red marker moved before 'When'.
  - Exodus 17:15 "Jehovah?nissi" ? "JEHOVAH?nissi".
  - 1 John 2:23 has "(but)" whereas Blayney has "[but]"
  - Ps.2.4: the Lord ? the <divineName>Lord</divineName>.
  - I Corinthians 3:13 A-GMS ? A-GSM;
  - I Corinthians 11:6 and 14:24 N-NAM ? N-NSM;
  - Hb 9.13, 10.4: N-GMP ? N-GPM;
  - I Cor 7:37 2 for 12;
  - 1Chr.27.12 Abi-ezer ? abiezer;
  - Exod.17.15: Jehovah ? JEHOVAH.
  - Jer.23.6: L ? LORD;
  - Mk 1:10.19 had a wrong strong number: 1492. The correct number is 3708.
  - Misplaced </w> in Numbers 16:13.
  - duplicated entry in Eph. 3.20,
  - spurious comma in Gn 1.2 and 2.9. Ezra 5:3,6;
  - Ezra 6.6,13: morph="strongMorph:TH8674 changed for lemma="strong:H08674.

Many thanks to everyone who contributed to this release.

We wish you enjoyable reading,
The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From domcox at crosswire.org  Wed Jul 26 06:13:34 2023
From: domcox at crosswire.org (domcox at crosswire.org)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 06:13:34 -0400
Subject: [sword-devel] Module release: KJVA
Message-ID: <20230726101334.07117120E84@mail.crosswire.org>

Dear All,

This is to announce that we have just now uploaded KJVA
in the CrossWire (main) repository.

## Language:
English

## Description:
King James Version (1769) with Strongs Numbers and Morphology and CatchWords, including Apocrypha (without glosses)

## Category:
Biblical Text

## Version:
This is an update. Version: 3.1

## What's new:
See KJV 3.1 history

Many thanks to everyone who contributed to this release.

We wish you enjoyable reading,
The Module Team

P.S.: This email is sent automatically on upload of a new/updated module


From dewhisna at dewtronics.com  Sat Jul 29 21:56:27 2023
From: dewhisna at dewtronics.com (Donna Whisnant)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 20:56:27 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Module release: KJV
Message-ID: <771b7866-d002-45e5-9b7a-c74f7f18e5d6@app.fastmail.com>

It seems that one of the primary changes in the new KJV module is to get rid of the "ae" as composed "?" or "?" and replace them with "e" or "E", respectively.  While I'm not sure that that's technically the correct spelling, as opposed to just decomposing the character into "ae" and "AE", I wanted to point out that you missed one.

John 3:23 still has "?non".

And for what it's worth, the new title on the module has an extra space before the "and CatchWords" that was added.

Regards,
Donna


From dfhdfh at protonmail.com  Sun Jul 30 00:52:21 2023
From: dfhdfh at protonmail.com (David Haslam)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 04:52:21 +0000
Subject: [sword-devel] Module release: KJV
In-Reply-To: <771b7866-d002-45e5-9b7a-c74f7f18e5d6@app.fastmail.com>
References: <771b7866-d002-45e5-9b7a-c74f7f18e5d6@app.fastmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pk5-ToJs1wKhaAs5qWJOY2LcuAkczF_IbWRtlnT8PE2QGBzW6B63zJ28QrDa_bE1c4z6k9ejWqOz3XPzLmTVSWFPrl0xwEkQHPsiFi9Qja0=@protonmail.com>

Thanks Donna,

The spellings of names that we changed in this way were all checked against the 1769 Blayney Oxford Edition. ?non was not overlooked or missed. That?s how it is in Blayney which was selected as our reference text, as documented in the developers? wiki.

cf. Many modern printings of the KJV continue to use the letters ?, ?.

The extra space in the module title can be adjusted in a future release, but by itself it?s insufficient a reason to warrant even an update to 3.1.1 for such a minor change to the conf file.

David H

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On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 02:56, Donna Whisnant <[dewhisna at dewtronics.com](mailto:On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 02:56, Donna Whisnant <<a href=)> wrote:

> It seems that one of the primary changes in the new KJV module is to get rid of the "ae" as composed "?" or "?" and replace them with "e" or "E", respectively. While I'm not sure that that's technically the correct spelling, as opposed to just decomposing the character into "ae" and "AE", I wanted to point out that you missed one.
>
> John 3:23 still has "?non".
>
> And for what it's worth, the new title on the module has an extra space before the "and CatchWords" that was added.
>
> Regards,
> Donna
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dewhisna at dewtronics.com  Sun Jul 30 01:19:43 2023
From: dewhisna at dewtronics.com (Donna Whisnant)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 00:19:43 -0500
Subject: [sword-devel] Module release: KJV
In-Reply-To: <Pk5-ToJs1wKhaAs5qWJOY2LcuAkczF_IbWRtlnT8PE2QGBzW6B63zJ28QrDa_bE1c4z6k9ejWqOz3XPzLmTVSWFPrl0xwEkQHPsiFi9Qja0=@protonmail.com>
References: <771b7866-d002-45e5-9b7a-c74f7f18e5d6@app.fastmail.com>
 <Pk5-ToJs1wKhaAs5qWJOY2LcuAkczF_IbWRtlnT8PE2QGBzW6B63zJ28QrDa_bE1c4z6k9ejWqOz3XPzLmTVSWFPrl0xwEkQHPsiFi9Qja0=@protonmail.com>
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Hmm..  OK.  Interesting.  I guess Blayney missed one ...  though I don't know that I like this change in general, as it's going to make it much more difficult to search for things like "Caesar".  Who spells it "Cesar"?  Seems it would have been best to have just left it the even more correct composed form of "C?sar" from the Latin...

I thought that the origin of this 1769 text was from the Scofield variation of the Oxford text instead of Blayney?  Is that not true?

Oh well ... thanks for the clarification.  And on the extra space, I wasn't intending for a there to be another update just for that -- just wanted to report it so you can check in the change to version control for the next release so it doesn't get overlooked...

Thanks,
Donna


On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, at 23:52, David Haslam wrote:
> Thanks Donna,
> 
> The spellings of names that we changed in this way were all checked against the 1769 Blayney Oxford Edition. ?non was not overlooked or missed. That?s how it is in Blayney which was selected as our reference text, as documented in the developers? wiki. 
> 
> cf. Many modern printings of the KJV continue to use the letters ?, ?.
> 
> The extra space in the module title can be adjusted in a future release, but by itself it?s insufficient a reason to warrant even an update to 3.1.1 for such a minor change to the conf file.
> 
> David H
> 
> Sent from Proton Mail for iOS
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 02:56, Donna Whisnant <dewhisna at dewtronics.com <mailto:On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 02:56, Donna Whisnant <<a href=>> wrote:
>> It seems that one of the primary changes in the new KJV module is to get rid of the "ae" as composed "?" or "?" and replace them with "e" or "E", respectively. While I'm not sure that that's technically the correct spelling, as opposed to just decomposing the character into "ae" and "AE", I wanted to point out that you missed one.
>> 
>> John 3:23 still has "?non".
>> 
>> And for what it's worth, the new title on the module has an extra space before the "and CatchWords" that was added.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Donna
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
>> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
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