[sword-devel] New shared common SWORD path on Android

[Tobias Klein]

Hi Troy,

I can certainly consider /sdcard/Documents as a new base also for Ezra 
(haven't tried it yet).

I just did a quick search and I didn't find any official Android 
documentation on that particular filesystem path. Is there something you 
can point me to?

Best regards,
Tobias

On 9/13/21 12:38 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael, yes, I also feel we need to not swim against the 
> Google flow.  The problem is that the Google flow seems to turn at 
> each new release of Android.  Be assured, my goal is to find a common 
> means for us to share a single install of SWORD modules and to do it 
> the way Google wants and for as many versions of Android as practical.
>
> Tobias,
>
> I've had no trouble writing to /sdcard/... from our C++ code, as long 
> as I don't write to the root of /sdcard/.  My change from 
> /sdcard/sword to /sdcard/Documents/sword/ works fine on Android 11.
>
> Can you give /sdcard/Documents/sword/ a try?  You can grab my exact 
> C++ code from the cordova plugin if you have trouble.
>
> https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/bindings/java-jni/jni/swordstub.cpp
>
> static void init(JNIEnv *env);
>
> On 9/13/21 10:32 AM, Tobias Klein wrote:
>>
>> Dear Troy,
>>
>> We should certainly align on the directories and keep it simple.
>>
>> However, starting from Android 11 Google makes it really hard for us 
>> due to the "Scoped Storage" concept, see 
>> https://developer.android.com/about/versions/11/privacy/storage
>>
>> I couldn't figure out a way to write to /sdcard any more in my C++ 
>> context on Android 11.
>>
>> As a consequence at the moment I am not using /sdcard from Android 11 
>> anymore, but only the private app folder.
>>
>> For Android < 11 I am using */sdcard/sword*, but for Android >= 11 I 
>> have completely disabled this including the permissions request for 
>> WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE.
>>
>> I wonder whether there is still any way to still use /sdcard/* in 
>> Android >= 11 in the C++ context ... I haven't found a solution yet 
>> and it seems rather complicated.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tobias
>>
>> On 9/12/21 3:51 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I've been updating Bishop to work on newer versions of Android and have
>>> found that we are running into problems trying to create the
>>> "Nonstandard top-level folder" 'sword' at the root of the common storage
>>> folder.
>>>
>>> Tobias, I know a while back you mentioned that you had to update Ezra
>>> for Android recently, but it has been a long while since we talked about
>>> it and I'd like to know if you've had any updated thoughts on what
>>> you're doing there.
>>>
>>> Any other mobile Android devs have any thoughts.
>>>
>>> For now, I have updated our cordova plugin (and thus Bishop) to check
>>> and if possible use paths in this preferred order:
>>>
>>> "/sdcard/Documents/sword"
>>>
>>> "/sdcard/sword"
>>>
>>> ((android.app.Application)
>>> app).getApplicationContext().getFilesDir().getAbsolutePath();
>>>
>>> And we are augmenting modules from AndBible:
>>>
>>> "/sdcard/Android/data/net.bible.android.activity/files"
>>>
>>> ... but I'd prefer not to do this any longer, once we all agree and
>>> implement storing files in a common location.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
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