[sword-devel] Bishop 1.7.0 released.
Mill J
millj.code at gmail.com
Fri Jan 1 13:21:30 EST 2021
In this day and age, people have very little patience, so a quick well
thought out video will certainly do the most good.
Openshot and ffDiaporama are my goto for howto videos. Both are available
in the Mint repos and are very different to use but work very well when
used together.
As a developer I can tell you that although the developer knows the
application inside out, he sees it from a completely different perspective
compared to a end user. As a result I've found it easier to work with end
users to create content since they see the app only at from the surface.
That's why user editable wiki's are so popular.
God bless
mill-j
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021, 10:36 AM jhphx <jhphx at cox.net> wrote:
> Good point Tom,
>
> Other than the individuals who created some of the apps here there are
> probably few people who can do a thorough job of explaining every
> feature in an app. So, help files of whatever type are probably going to
> have to be basic in what they provide. Things like regex searching,
> variations on Strong's number system and other language features
> probably wouldn't get much coverage. If the past is any indication there
> wouldn't be many volunteers to do documentation at detailed levels and
> no one wants to sit through a long wordy video just to get started.
>
> So, quick tour videos would be quick and simple. Possibly so simple that
> one would not have to get very wordy. Just the pointing to a tool and
> showing what it changes on a screen, even without words may be enough to
> get many started. We not only have the problem of the deaf but also
> people who don't speak the language in the video. So at the heart of
> doing a video would be the showing not the telling.
>
> A video with no sound and various blank places for text but without text
> could be produced. Various voice overs in different languages could be
> done and using blue screen and text insertions tools text for different
> languages could be used to add text latter. The people in the videos
> would just be voices. No faces or hands. In the case of Bishop even the
> phone screen shots could be something added by blue screen so shots in
> other languages can easily be done.
>
> I have not done video editing in years but If someone can suggest a good
> free video app I can create a prototype proof of concept. I have both
> Windows and Linux Mint to use and Gimp in both for still shots.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> On 1/1/2021 1:50 AM, Tom Sullivan wrote:
> > Y'all:
> >
> > With regard to the video idea, it is necessary for me to think
> > carefully as I write to avoid being uncharitable. You see, videos cut
> > off the deaf from learning. There has been software that I never
> > learned to fully use because there was no documentation other than
> > watching a bunch of stuff jumping around with no explanation of what
> > was what and why.
> >
> > So if you make videos, please put everything that is spoken in text on
> > the screen or implement closed-caption.
> >
> > Also, some of us live in remote areas and have limited bandwidth.
> > Printed documentation does have its advantages. Thank God Moses and
> > Paul lived before electronics existed.
> >
> > This is a general comment. What you do with Bishop does not apply to
> > me because I only use a Linux computer. So the above remarks are for
> > the sake of other deaf users, not me. But it still hits a tender nerve.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Tom Sullivan
> >
> > Tom Sullivan
> > info at BeForgiven.INFO
> > FAX: 815-301-2835
> > ---------------------
> >
> >
> > On 12/31/20 11:21 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >> Hi Jerry,
> >>
> >> I love your idea about getting started videos. The Capuchinos did a
> >> couple nice videos for their rebranded Bishop app.
> >>
> >>
> https://videos.b4tech.org/videos/watch/6d888fb1-3e50-4bbb-8c46-850e433a6fe4
> >> <
> https://videos.b4tech.org/videos/watch/6d888fb1-3e50-4bbb-8c46-850e433a6fe4>
>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://videos.b4tech.org/videos/watch/2fe0bad4-d3e0-439f-81c6-89c4a3289bc6
> >> <
> https://videos.b4tech.org/videos/watch/2fe0bad4-d3e0-439f-81c6-89c4a3289bc6>
>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We could have a CrossWire YouTube channel where we could upload
> >> little "getting started" videos, as you suggest. I think that would
> >> be ideal. Are you offering to make one? ;)
> >>
> >> Troy
> >>
> >> On December 31, 2020 8:48:20 AM MST, jhphx <jhphx at cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Happy New Year to you also!
> >>
> >> 1.7.0 looks good so far. Just installed more modules. I like the
> >> Language Assist and footnote displays. It is a good looking app. I
> >> have not tried many features yet.
> >>
> >> What do you think of the idea of setting up "getting started"/help
> >> videos? Basically just tours of the different features. Maybe on
> >> CrossWire even provide quick tours of the different apps. I find
> >> Bishop to be intuitive but sometimes I only see how intuitive it is
> >> after I discover how to do something. Does that make sense? A quick
> >> video tour should be easy to make and upload. Space and bandwidth
> >> would seem to be the main considerations.
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >> On 12/31/2020 7:40 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>> Thank you, Jerry! Hope you are well. Happy New Year!
> >>>
> >>> Troy
> >>>
> >>> On December 31, 2020 7:32:38 AM MST, jhphx <jhphx at cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I deleted the old test flight version then download 1.7.0 from
> >>> the Apple App Store. Language Assist seems to work for me.
> >>> IPhone 11 IOS 14.3
> >>>
> >>> Jerry
> >>>
> >>> On 12/31/2020 2:51 AM, Fr Cyrille wrote:
> >>>> Hello Troy,
> >>>> I don't know what happened, but with the new version of
> >>>> bishop I have nothing displayed when I select the Language
> >>>> Assist.
> >>>> Any idea?
> >>>>
> >>>> Br Cyrille
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 30/12/2020 à 19:21, Fr Cyrille a écrit :
> >>>>> Hi Troy,
> >>>>> This sentence: "You have asked to show Gospel parallels. For
> >>>>> this feature, we need to download a small set of data. Is
> >>>>> this OK?" is still displayed in English not in locale.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le 27/12/2020 à 08:17, David Haslam a écrit :
> >>>>>> The App Store still has iOS/iPadOS app version 1.5.2 of the
> >>>>>> SWORD Project and the TestFlight version has expired.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> David
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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