[sword-devel] Versification Mapping
Troy A. Griffitts
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Wed May 6 09:47:08 MST 2020
Yes, as Peter has pointed out, SWORD includes a facility for mapping,
graciously contributed by Костя Маслюк <kostyamaslyuk at gmail.com> and
should "just work" when setting a key from one module to another, e.g,
kjv->setKey(wycliffe->getKey()). It's not quite that simple, because
there isn't always a 1:1 mapping, so if you want full support, you'll
have to see if a bound is set on the receiving module's key.
The mapping data, as with everything, is not exhaustive, but we'd
certainly like to extend it to meet cases which you run into which
aren't yet supported.
You can see it taken advantage of in example
sword/examples/tasks/parallelbibles.cpp, but I've just added a concise
example which shows how to use it:
http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/examples/classes/verseconvert.cpp
Which outputs, e.g.
./verseconvert Ps.43.22 Wycliffe FreGeneve1669
Psalms 43:22 (Wycliffe) => Psalms 44:21-Psalms 44:22 (FreGeneve1669)
Hope this helps,
Troy
On 5/6/20 7:07 AM, refdoc at gmx.net wrote:
> I think transparent mapping has been for a while now included in the
> library. I am not sure how to make it work, but I do think it is there
> and functioning.
>
> Peter
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird
> autocorrects.
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Versification Mapping
> From: Jamie
> To: 'SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum'
> CC:
>
>
> Hi Tobias,
>
>
>
> Not sure that this exactly answers your question, but just in case
> it’s relevant, Tyndale House have various public domain
> information available, including material on alternative
> versification schemes. The reversification material gives details
> of how to map LXX, MT and Vulgate schemes on to NRSVA (and also
> addresses some other schemes which are perhaps less frequently
> encountered). It also caters for common variants which basically
> follow one of these schemes, but which have certain verses split
> up into subverses. You can find the data at :-
>
>
>
> https://github.com/tyndale/STEPBible-Data/blob/master/TVTMS%20-%20Tyndale%20Versification%20Traditions%20with%20Methodology%20for%20Standardisation%20for%20Eng%2BHeb%2BLat%2BGrk%2BOthers%20-%20TyndaleHouse.com%20STEPBible.org%20CC%20BY-NC.txt
>
>
>
> If you do want to make use of it, I’d be very happy to try to
> answer any questions.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> ARA “Jamie” Jamieson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*Tobias Klein [mailto:contact at tklein.info]
> *Sent:* 05 May 2020 21:19
> *To:* SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
> <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> *Subject:* [sword-devel] Versification Mapping
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to ask a question that I was planning to ask for a
> while already ...
> What's the recommended solution of mapping different versification
> systems?
>
> And what working implementations for this are already out there?
>
> I realize that my understanding of versifications has been a bit
> limited and that's visible in Ezra Project's implementation of the
> mapping. I am currently only differentiating between two
> versification systems, namely the English versification (used in
> most/all (?) English translations) and the Hebrew versification
> (used in most modern German translations).
>
> It's been a few years since I looked into this and I think this
> has been my source (SBL Handbook of Style)
> https://books.google.de/books?id=M_upBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA265&lpg=PA265&dq=appendix+english/hebrew/greek+versification&source=bl&ots=CXVR0J6YrI&sig=ACfU3U3hEIPgNxmmUQW1kZJaRAtHl78L-g&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwilyoPUwp3pAhUrzqYKHVk4BtIQ6AEwAXoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=appendix%20english%2Fhebrew%2Fgreek%20versification&f=false
>
> My current approach in Ezra Project to map between English and
> Hebrew versification is the following:
>
> * I use "absolute verse numbers" in each book.
> * I have mapping tables that basically define offsets for the
> "absolute verse numbers" (see implementation here
> <https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-project/blob/master/models/versereference.js#L177>).
> * The versification (currently only English or Hebrew) of the
> respective translation is detected based on some simple
> dynamic tests when opening it.
> * I have functions to convert between one and the other
> "absolute verse numbers" based on the mapping.
> * Verse Reference objects are stored both with the English and
> Hebrew absolute verse numbers and these objects are used for
> assigning tags, notes, etc.
>
> This works fairly well when using English translations and German
> translations. The result is for example that tags that were
> assigned to verses of an English translation still show up
> correctly for the verses in a German translation. This is
> particularly visible in Psalms.
>
> How flawed is my current approach described above?
> How do other frontends do it?
> Have there been plans to somehow integrate some sort of mapping
> functionality into the SWORD engine?
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
>
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