[sword-devel] Versification Mapping

[David Haslam]

Hi Tobias,

Remember that any libraries for STEP Bible would likely be oriented towards JSword rather than SWORD per se.

David

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On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 17:04, Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info> wrote:

> Hi Jamie,
>
> Thanks. I had a look at the data, that’s quite complex! Even a bit intimidating ...
>
> I suppose STEPBible has some library functions that parse this data?
> Can you point me to any APIs?
>
> Best regards,
> Tobias
>
>> Am 06.05.2020 um 15:04 schrieb Jamie <araj at critos.co.uk>:
>>
>> Hi Tobias,
>>
>> Not sure that this exactly answers your question, but just in case it’s relevant, Tyndale House have various public domain information available, including material on alternative versification schemes.  The reversification material gives details of how to map LXX, MT and Vulgate schemes on to NRSVA (and also addresses some other schemes which are perhaps less frequently encountered).  It also caters for common variants which basically follow one of these schemes, but which have certain verses split up into subverses.  You can find the data at :-
>>
>> https://github.com/tyndale/STEPBible-Data/blob/master/TVTMS%20-%20Tyndale%20Versification%20Traditions%20with%20Methodology%20for%20Standardisation%20for%20Eng%2BHeb%2BLat%2BGrk%2BOthers%20-%20TyndaleHouse.com%20STEPBible.org%20CC%20BY-NC.txt
>>
>> If you do want to make use of it, I’d be very happy to try to answer any questions.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> ARA “Jamie” Jamieson
>>
>> From: Tobias Klein [mailto:contact at tklein.info]
>> Sent: 05 May 2020 21:19
>> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> Subject: [sword-devel] Versification Mapping
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to ask a question that I was planning to ask for a while already ...
>> What's the recommended solution of mapping different versification systems?
>>
>> And what working implementations for this are already out there?
>>
>> I realize that my understanding of versifications has been a bit limited and that's visible in Ezra Project's implementation of the mapping. I am currently only differentiating between two versification systems, namely the English versification (used in most/all (?) English translations) and the Hebrew versification (used in most modern German translations).
>>
>> It's been a few years since I looked into this and I think this has been my source (SBL Handbook of Style)
>> https://books.google.de/books?id=M_upBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA265&lpg=PA265&dq=appendix+english/hebrew/greek+versification&source=bl&ots=CXVR0J6YrI&sig=ACfU3U3hEIPgNxmmUQW1kZJaRAtHl78L-g&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwilyoPUwp3pAhUrzqYKHVk4BtIQ6AEwAXoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=appendix%20english%2Fhebrew%2Fgreek%20versification&f=false
>>
>> My current approach in Ezra Project to map between English and Hebrew versification is the following:
>>
>> - I use "absolute verse numbers" in each book.
>> - I have mapping tables that basically define offsets for the "absolute verse numbers" (see implementation [here](https://github.com/tobias-klein/ezra-project/blob/master/models/versereference.js#L177)).
>> - The versification (currently only English or Hebrew) of the respective translation is detected based on some simple dynamic tests when opening it.
>> - I have functions to convert between one and the other "absolute verse numbers" based on the mapping.
>> - Verse Reference objects are stored both with the English and Hebrew absolute verse numbers and these objects are used for assigning tags, notes, etc.
>>
>> This works fairly well when using English translations and German translations. The result is for example that tags that were assigned to verses of an English translation still show up correctly for the verses in a German translation. This is particularly visible in Psalms.
>>
>> How flawed is my current approach described above?
>> How do other frontends do it?
>> Have there been plans to somehow integrate some sort of mapping functionality into the SWORD engine?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tobias
>>
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