[sword-devel] Titles and sub-titles should be "related" to next verse, not previous

Tue Jun 16 11:06:50 EDT 2020

Is this not simply a matter of some post-processing being required for the OSIS output from adyeths/u2o.py ?

Have you tried moving the verse eID milestone? i.e.

<verse eID="Mark.1.20" />
<!-- s2 --><title type="x-s2">Une journée à Capharnaüm</title>
<!-- r --><title type="parallel"><reference type="parallel" osisRef="Matt.7.28-Matt.7.29 Luke.4.31-Luke.4.37">Mt 7,28-29; Lc 4,31-37 </reference></title>
<p>
<verse sID="Mark.1.21" osisID="Mark.1.21" n="21" />Ils se rendirent à <w lemma="strong:G2584">Capharnaüm</w>, <w lemma="strong:G2532">et</w> dès le <w lemma="strong:G4413">premier</w> <w lemma="strong:G4521">sabbat</w>, <w lemma="strong:G2424">Jésus</w> entrant <w lemma="strong:G1722">dans</w> la <w lemma="strong:G4864">synagogue</w>, se mit à enseigner.
<verse eID="Mark.1.21" />

If that works for the module, then surely this is an issue for adyeths to fix?
Create one in his GitHub repo.

Best regards,

David

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On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:32, Fr Cyrille <fr.cyrille at tiberiade.be> wrote:

> Hello,
> Any progress about this issue? I found that if we have only one title, it's displayed well. But if we have more then one title following we have this issue. Example, a title well displayed:
> <!-- s2 --><title type="x-s2">Jésus enseigne et guérit un démoniaque</title>
> <p>
> <verse sID="Mark.1.21" osisID="Mark.1.21" n="21" />Voici qu’ils s’arrêtent à Capharnaüm. Dès ce moment Jésus commence à enseigner les jours de sabbat, lorsqu’il vient à la synagogue.
> <verse eID="Mark.1.21" />
>
> A title not well displayed:
> <!-- s2 --><title type="x-s2">Une journée à Capharnaüm</title>
> <verse eID="Mark.1.20" />
> <!-- r --><title type="parallel"><reference type="parallel" osisRef="Matt.7.28-Matt.7.29 Luke.4.31-Luke.4.37">Mt 7,28-29; Lc 4,31-37 </reference></title>
> <p>
> <verse sID="Mark.1.21" osisID="Mark.1.21" n="21" />Ils se rendirent à <w lemma="strong:G2584">Capharnaüm</w>, <w lemma="strong:G2532">et</w> dès le <w lemma="strong:G4413">premier</w> <w lemma="strong:G4521">sabbat</w>, <w lemma="strong:G2424">Jésus</w> entrant <w lemma="strong:G1722">dans</w> la <w lemma="strong:G4864">synagogue</w>, se mit à enseigner.
> <verse eID="Mark.1.21" />
>
> Le 25/03/2020 à 19:52, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit :
>
>> [scribe at localhost ~]$ sudo installmgr -ri CrossWire PorCap
>>
>> ...
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Installed module: [PorCap]
>>
>> [scribe at localhost ~]$ ~/src/sword/examples/cmdline/lookup PorCap Luke.22.23
>> ==Raw=Entry===============
>> Luke 22:23:
>> Começaram a perguntar uns aos outros qual deles iria fazer semelhante coisa.<div eID="gen36293" type="x-p"/> <title type="x-s2">Poder e serviço</title>
>> ==Render=Entry============
>> .divineName { font-variant: small-caps; }
>> .wordsOfJesus { color: red; }
>> .transChange { font-style: italic; }
>> .transChange.transChange-supplied { font-style: italic; }
>> .transChange.transChange-added { font-style: italic; }
>> .transChange.transChange-tenseChange::before { content: '*'; }
>> .transChange.transChange-tenseChange { font-style: normal; }
>> .transChange:lang(zh) { font-style: normal; text-decoration: dotted underline; }
>> .overline { text-decoration: overline; }
>> .indent1 { margin-left: 1em; }
>> .indent2 { margin-left: 2em; }
>> .indent3 { margin-left: 3em; }
>> .indent4 { margin-left: 4em; }
>> abbr { &:hover{ &:before{ content: attr(title); } } }
>> .small-caps { font-variant: small-caps; }
>> .otPassage { font-variant: small-caps; }
>> .selah { text-align: right; width: 50%; margin: 0; padding: 0; }
>> .acrostic { text-align: center; }
>> .colophon {font-style: italic; font-size: small; display: block; }
>> .rdg { font-style: italic; }
>> .inscription {font-variant: small-caps; }
>> .catchWord {font-style: bold; }
>> .x-p-indent {text-indent: 1em; }
>>
>> Começaram a perguntar uns aos outros qual deles iria fazer semelhante coisa.<br />
>> <h3 class="title x-s2">Poder e serviço</h3>
>>
>> ==========================
>> Entry Attributes:
>>
>> [ Heading ]
>> [ 0 ]
>> type = x-s2
>> [ Interverse ]
>> 0 = <title type="x-s2">Poder e serviço</title>
>>
>> The title is placed in Luke 22.23, not in Luke 22.24, where it should be placed. This is caused by either:
>>
>> invalid OSIS markup
>>
>> invalid import logic in osis2mod
>>
>> But the module data has the problem right now and needs to be rebuilt for frontends to render it correctly.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> On 3/25/20 11:35 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>>
>>> That would be premature - as we still need evidence that compares the old module with the recent update.
>>>
>>> We shouldn’t burden adyeths with what might be SWORD issues.
>>>
>>> I don’t have the OSIS file for either old or new.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 17:58, Fr Cyrille <fr.cyrille at tiberiade.be> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it is a problem with u2o.py. Maybe we need to open an issue on his github.
>>>>
>>>> Le 25/03/2020 à 18:03, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> FYI.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the old PorCap module (not the recent update) the relevant lines in the mod2imp output are:
>>>>>
>>>>> $$$Luke 22:23
>>>>> Começaram a perguntar uns aos outros qual deles iria fazer semelhante coisa. <div eID="gen11849" type="paragraph"/> <div eID="gen11848" type="section"/>
>>>>> $$$Luke 22:24
>>>>> <div sID="gen11850" type="section"/> <title subType="x-preverse">Poder e serviço</title> <div sID="gen11851" type="paragraph"/> Levantou-se entre eles uma discussão sobre qual deles devia ser considerado o maior. <div eID="gen11851" type="paragraph"/>
>>>>>
>>>>> The first two lines of mod2imp were
>>>>> $$$[ Testament 1 Heading ]
>>>>> <milestone type="x-importer" subType="x-osis2mod" n="$Rev: 2562 $"/>
>>>>>
>>>>> The old PorCap module has
>>>>> History_1.0.1=First release (2011-08-17)
>>>>>
>>>>> NB. On my PC, I have not yet updated this module with Xiphos.
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC, Peter did the work for the first release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 4:42 PM, Troy A. Griffitts [<scribe at crosswire.org>](mailto:scribe at crosswire.org) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can almost guarantee the problem is not in Bishop but in the module. A simple check will prove this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sword/examples/cmdline/lookup PorCap Like.22.23
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On March 25, 2020 2:54:14 AM MST, Cyrille [<lafricain79 at gmail.com>](mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 25/03/2020 à 10:35, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How section titles should be done for OSIS Bibles is documented in our wiki.
>>>>>>>> See https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Bibles
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> adyeths/u2o.py script targets OSIS 2.1.1 as the implementation standard.
>>>>>>>> It takes no account of any special techniques that are required by SWORD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IIRC, the conversion of "preverse content" to a div element with type="x-preverse" is one of several things done "under the hood" by osis2mod.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would therefore be of interest for you to look at the mod2imp output for the updated PorCap module and examine the relevant lines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is with Bishop, and it is the same with other module (as KtuVB) it happens only when we have multiple titles following, or crossrefences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not yet convinced that the problem reported by Frei Hermando Filipe is really a modules issue.
>>>>>>>> It may be down to how the SWORD engine behaves in general.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> btw. He did not mention which front-end app the screenshots are from.
>>>>>>>> If it's And Bible, then that uses JSword rather than SWORD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:30 AM, Cyrille [<lafricain79 at gmail.com>](mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Troy,
>>>>>>>>> How this can be a module error? I converted the file with u2o.py. Can show me how it should be in the osis file?
>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Fr Cyrille
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 24/03/2020 à 02:32, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a module error. The PorCap module needs to be updated to fix this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/20 7:49 AM, Frei Hermano Filipe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it would be better to talk about this in a new email because I think that this problem affects not only PORCAP but also other Bible texts that use titles and sub-titles!?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As you can see in the pictures below, many times (not always), sub-titles (\s2) are "related" to previous verse when they actually "belong" to the next verse(s). That explains why, using Parallels (Lc 22,23) a sub-title is there but it shouldn't because it introduces verse 24 and next. Sorry my poor English; I'm not sure if I'm being able to explain myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for all your effort! 🙏
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Com as mais fraternas saudações de paz e bem,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.capuchinhos.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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