[sword-devel] Dead Sea Scrolls copyright discussion
Tom Sullivan
info at beforgiven.info
Mon Sep 10 08:41:35 MST 2018
Andrew:
Thanks - it was the "PD" that had me puzzled. Reminds me of the story of
a bureaucrat who submitted a document and found "UNO" stamped all over
it at various places. He asked its meaning and was told, "Use No
Abbreviations."
Tom
Tom Sullivan
info at BeForgiven.INFO
FAX: 815-301-2835
---------------------
Great News!
God created you, owns you and gave you commands to obey.
You have disobeyed God - as your conscience very well attests to you.
God's holiness and justice compel Him to punish you in Hell.
Jesus Christ became Man, was crucified, buried and rose from the dead
as a substitute for all who trust in Him, redeeming them from Hell.
If you repent (turn from your sin) and believe (trust) in Jesus Christ,
you will go to Heaven. Otherwise you will go to Hell.
Warning! Good works are a result, not cause, of saving trust.
More info is at www.esig.beforgiven.info
Do you believe this? Copy this signature into your email program
and use the Internet to spread the Great News every time you email.
On 09/10/2018 11:03 AM, Andrew T. wrote:
> Tom, PD is 'public domain'. Public Domain (PD) refers materials that
> are not or no longer protected by intellectual property laws such as
> copyright, trademark etc.
>
> To confuse, different jurisdictions have different criteria for
> materials to enter into the Public Domain. For example see the section
> labelled 'Crown Copyright, Letters Patent and the KJV here:
> https://wiki.crosswire.org/CrossWire_KJV
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:54 AM Tom Sullivan <info at beforgiven.info
> <mailto:info at beforgiven.info>> wrote:
>
> Peter:
>
> Thanks for your reply. Please excuse my ignorance: What is a "PD
> document"? Thanks.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Tom Sullivan
> info at BeForgiven.INFO
> FAX: 815-301-2835
> ---------------------
> Great News!
> God created you, owns you and gave you commands to obey.
> You have disobeyed God - as your conscience very well attests to you.
> God's holiness and justice compel Him to punish you in Hell.
> Jesus Christ became Man, was crucified, buried and rose from the dead
> as a substitute for all who trust in Him, redeeming them from Hell.
> If you repent (turn from your sin) and believe (trust) in Jesus Christ,
> you will go to Heaven. Otherwise you will go to Hell.
> Warning! Good works are a result, not cause, of saving trust.
> More info is at www.esig.beforgiven.info
> <http://www.esig.beforgiven.info>
> Do you believe this? Copy this signature into your email program
> and use the Internet to spread the Great News every time you email.
>
> On 09/10/2018 10:41 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-09-10 at 09:54 -0400, Tom Sullivan wrote:
> >> First, take Matthew Henry's or Calvin's commentaries. They are way
> >> out
> >> of copyright to say the least. Now some publishers may add OCR text,
> >> comments, footnotes, etc. These are copyrightable. Am I correct in
> >> thinking that the original text itself could be safely made into a
> >> module? Surely I am, for these modules are out there. Or am I
> >> missing
> >> something?
> >
> > Yes, the original text can be made a module, any later edition not,
> > unless it without addition or editing simply copies an older public
> > domain edition.
> >
> > With this in mind we will e.g. publish critical editions of the
> NT from
> > Westcott Hort, but not the newest Aland.
> >
> >> Secondly, there are those who publish images of old works and
> >> manuscripts. They claim copyright to the images in some cases. At
> >> the
> >> same time, if one does not publish the image, but only the bare
> >> original
> >> text, which is not copyrightable, that should be OK for a module. Am
> >> I
> >> correct? I should note that I have seen many cases of republished
> >> old
> >> works that have a copyright label, but it seems to me that they
> >> copyright can only apply to the modern additions.
> >
> > While pictures are copyrightable, I presume using the pictures to
> > transcribe the bare text would make a PD document. Our WLC is
> something
> > of that kind. Someone somewhere put fingers on keyboard and typed the
> > bare text in.
> >
> >> Thirdly, [..]
> >> In other words, even if a module maker has a
> >> legal
> >> right, it may not be worth the risk in the view of the Sword
> >> community.
> >> Am I correct in my impression that this is a factor?
> >
> > Yes, this is a risk and yes this risk makes us double cautious. In
> > general Bible publishers are kind folk and do not like to sue, but of
> > course they could. FWIW the last time I had to pull a text due to
> > erroneous publication as public domain I was uploading within days a
> > new module with footnotes, crossreferences and the like,
> significantly
> > improved upon the prior one which was text only. The Bible society in
> > question had coupled their request to pull the old module with an
> offer
> > of an improved text. But we still do not want to risk this.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> <mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
> >
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud
> service.
> > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> <mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
> For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
>
More information about the sword-devel
mailing list