[sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?

David Haslam dfhdfh at protonmail.com
Wed Mar 21 02:36:15 MST 2018


Corrigendum

I should have written type="small-caps" for the hi element.

btw. The testing of this in Eloquent was done by someone else.

Best regards,

David

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On 21 March 2018 9:19 AM, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Peter,
>
> Whatever view each of us may have about the KJV module, this thread is more general.
> Its about any modules that potentially may contain the inscription element.
>
> Aside:
> Small-caps already works for the divineName element in most front-ends.
> Small-caps doesn't work for the hi element with type="small caps" for at least one front-end (Eloquent).
> Currently, this defaults to italics.
>
> We should also bear in mind that altering a module before all front-ends have implemented the proper rendering in a new release would reduce the quality of the output.
> i.e. A Proper Case inscription for ".... The Mother Of Harlots ...." might not "cut the mustard" for some KJV readers.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
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> On 21 March 2018 8:26 AM, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi DM, I am not sure I agree. For any number of reasons.
>>
>> We do not copy the presentation as such usually, but normally tag semantically and then attach a presentation fitting to the original presentation. So if small caps is wrong maybe textTransform=capitalize as style, but ordinary text in the OSIS.
>>
>> The main positive result of the change I propose is that the inscriptions turn up in searches, while they would not otherwise, unless one searches for capitalized text.
>>
>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?
>> From: DM Smith
>> To: David Haslam ,SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>> CC:
>>
>>> In the KJV, these are IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. I think that we are both marking it semantically and having the text as given. I think this is correct.
>>>
>>> I can see about rendering it differently. In the printed copy of the KJV, the letters are spaced a bit more than otherwise.
>>>
>>> DM
>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2018, at 5:27 PM, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Small caps style makes no change to UPPER CASE letters. The inscription text would have to change to Proper Case.
>>>>
>>>> But wouldn't this deviate from the KJV Oxford Edition of Benjamin Blayney?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, David
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 18:59, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi DM,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking that the "correct" presentation is capitalisation. Or better small caps. Only to work the actual presentation needs to be taken out of the text as it stands. Right now KJV inscriptions are both tagged and capitalised. Can I ask for this being corrected?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?
>>>>> From: DM Smith
>>>>> To: David Haslam ,SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>>>> CC:
>>>>>
>>>>>> JSword -> Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2018, at 11:46 AM, David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No - I was just wondering whether we already did something in either SWORD or JSword.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The likelihood is low, and a yes/no answer would suffice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cf. Examples of an inscription in Scripture include those in Acts 17:23 and Revelation 17:5 & 19:16.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> btw. I'm aware that some front-ends support ancillary CSS files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On 17 March 2018 2:31 PM, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Easily done with CSS, I would do little else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have a list of occasions this could be used at?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>>> Subject: [sword-devel] The OSIS element inscription ?
>>>>>>>> From: David Haslam
>>>>>>>> To: sword-devel mailing list
>>>>>>>> CC:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does SWORD contain any code to render text wrapped by the OSIS inscription element ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>
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