[sword-devel] Bishop for Android and iOS 1.0.4

Troy A. Griffitts scribe at crosswire.org
Wed Mar 14 17:08:24 MST 2018 

Yes, 1.0.4 added native image viewing.

On March 14, 2018 5:00:17 PM MST, Michael H <cmahte at gmail.com> wrote:
>When I view a witness (jpeg image of a manuscript) in Android, is there
>a
>way to zoom?  I haven't found any method to zoom the image to a
>viewable
>size. (i'm on 1.0.4, but I haven't spent time with that... this dates
>to
>testing with 1.0.2 )
>
>On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Troy A. Griffitts
><scribe at crosswire.org>
>wrote:
>
>> So, for those of you who have tried Bishop and also had modules
>installed
>> previously by another SWORD app like AndBible, you weren't offered
>the
>> dialog prompting you to install a basic set of modules (you already
>had
>> modules installed, so Bishop assumed you had what you wanted).
>>
>> This means though that you might not have modules that some of the
>> features of Bishop need to operate. The basically module set consists
>of
>> KJV, WLC, WHNU, StrongsGreek, and StrongsHebrew. The latter two are
>needed
>> for the Word Study feature, along with a Strongs lemma Bible as the
>active
>> primary Bible module (first of the three selected active modules).
>>
>> None of this is obvious and is just setup correctly for the user on
>first
>> run if they don't have any modules yet installed.
>>
>> For those of you who already had modules installed before installing
>> Bishop, I'd like to maybe add some kind of warning when a feature is
>> selected and all the cards aren't in place to operate. I suppose
>before
>> adding those warnings, maybe we should extend the functionality to
>allow
>> selection of, e.g., word study module, Greek def module, Hebrew def
>module,
>> so these things aren't just hardcoded magic. 90% of all users are
>probably
>> happy not knowing about these details, but since we've now added a
>> [Settings] panel to support the font size adjustment, we could add
>other
>> configuration options there.
>>
>> Just thinking out loud if anyone has any feedback or wants to help.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> On March 12, 2018 2:38:22 AM MST, Chris Umphress <umphress at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Troy,
>>>
>>> I had the same experience as Gary. None of the installed modules
>(from AndBible) were automatically selected, but they are available.
>The grey section at the top of the sidebar said “Undefined” until I
>started to navigate inside of the modules.
>>>
>>> The interface could use a handful of tweaks for word placement on
>buttons and such, but everything seems to be working. I love the
>Witness Study feature.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your work on this,
>>>
>>> Chris Umphress
>>>
>>>  On Mar 12, 2018, at 04:05, Gary Holmlund <gary.holmlund at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Troy,
>>>>
>>>>  I just tried version 1.05 and it started up with no text. I
>selected 1, 2, and 3 bibles and all was working.
>>>>
>>>>  Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On 03/11/2018 07:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  New Bishop is available.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I believe I've added the Apple UDIDs for everyone who sent them. 
>I
>>>>>  haven't looked into TestFlight yet, but thank you for the
>suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Michael, I believe I've added a "No data to display." message
>when none
>>>>>  of the 3 active modules selected have data for the verse chosen.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Gary, thanks again for the log.  After installing ABSMaps and
>running
>>>>>  Bishop for the first time, I see that this module is incorrectly
>chosen
>>>>>  as a default Bible (it was alphabetically first and my iteration
>to find
>>>>>  the first Bible wasn't exactly correctly).  Please try again and
>let me
>>>>>  know if things work for you now.  Since it has been set as your
>default
>>>>>  Bible now, it will probably still not choose a Bible, but you can
>select
>>>>>  your 3 active Bibles from the menu.  If you uninstall and
>reinstall,
>>>>>  Bishop should now correctly skip over ABSMaps when setting a
>default
>>>>>  Bible on first run.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Chris, thank you for the logs with the crash report.  I believe
>this bug
>>>>>  is fixed for you now too.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Besides bug fixes, this version includes native image viewing
>support
>>>>>  for manuscript folios.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Let me know if you have a chance to try 1.0.4 and your
>experiences.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks for all the great feedback and 5-star ratings!
>>>>>
>>>>>  Troy
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop/manifest.plist
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop.ipa
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop.apk
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 03/05/2018 03:15 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  In response to Manfred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  TestFlight is part of Apple's infrastructure for testing beta
>versions of iOS apps before release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I've used it in the past to install PocketSword when Nic Carter
>has been working on a beta version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  AFAIK, it still downloads from Apple, rather than direct from
>the developer. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  NB. All new/updated iOS apps must support 64-bit and iOS 11 to
>be accepted by Apple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ​Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.​
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 4 March 2018 4:14 PM, Manfred Bergmann
><manfred.bergmann at me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  TestFlight not an option to make it installable for testers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Manfred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Am 04.03.2018 um 16:36 schrieb DM Smith dmsmith at crosswire.org:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  David,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I’ve installed it on my iPhone 6. Will do my iPad 2 later
>today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I don’t think the iOS app store supports 32-bit only any more,
>but they might allow dual 32/64. I have an old iPhone 5 on which I can
>test. I don’t have a 32-bit iPad like yours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  It’s not something you’ll be willing to do. I’m describing the
>process that I went through in case others are interested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  To install it, you need to be running MacOS. This is possible
>to do in a VM on Windows or Linux. I think that’s what Troy does. I
>have a Mac, so it isn’t a difficulty for me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Within MacOS you have to install XCode from the Mac App Store
>and in XCode open Window->Devices and Simulators with your iOS device
>attached to your “Mac". Make the window wide enough to see the entire
>device “Identifier”. Right click on that, select copy and send that to
>Troy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Troy will have to add that to the list of authorized devices
>and rebuild Bishop.ipa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Download that ipa and in the same window, click + under
>INSTALLED APPS, navigate to that download and “Open” it. This will
>install it to your device.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Later, I think it’ll be possible to build from source in
>XCode.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  DM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Mar 4, 2018, at 3:26 AM, David Haslam dfhdfh at protonmail.com
>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Hi Troy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I've been ignoring Bishop on the grounds that I'd only ever
>seen it described as being an Android OS app.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  This is the first time I've seen it mentioned in connection
>with iOS devices.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  My devices are iPhone 5 and iPad Mini. My wife has an iPhone
>5S and iPad Mini.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Even so, unless it's in the Apple iStore, only users who
>jailbreak could install it? AFAICT, it's not there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  btw. Is it a 64-bit app ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 21:53, Troy A. Griffitts
>scribe at crosswire.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Thanks for the feedback Michael,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I have added a new menu choice:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  \[ Settings \]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  -   Font Size +
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  It seems to work well on both iOS and Android. Please let me
>know if it makes the app more usable for you. The update should now be
>available for your phone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Thank you again for taking the time to provide valuable
>feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Troy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  On 03/03/2018 04:05 AM, Michael H wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I already had AndBible installed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Bishop installed and recognized all the modules (at least
>20+ bibles, i haven't confirmed "ALL") that AndBible has present. I
>haven't attempted any more module installs after installing Bishop,
>either from AndBible or Bishop.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  The text is small on my Samsung Galaxy On5. Not horribly
>unreadably small, but small for me to use for any length of time. I
>don't see settings to adjust that, so I haven't spent much time on it.
>I can and will test more if you have something specific.. But this
>isn't ready for my eyes yet. Very promising tho. :-) Based on the
>images in the store screen, I would be using it more if the text had
>size adjustment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts
>scribe at crosswire.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I've had 2 instances of problems running the app. One was a
>report from a user here, and another was trying to install the app on
>my TV. In both cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install
>and and startup.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some
>point, so I'm not a very good clean test case. Has anyone had any luck
>installing and getting the basic set of modules running? Or any
>problems? Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Troy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Suggestion:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  and add these details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  David
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts
>scribe at crosswire.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Dear team,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for
>SWORD for quite some time now. We now have a simple reader written in
>JavaScript which will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop
>includes an InstallMgr to auto-discover remote installation sources and
>let a user install SWORD content.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite
>android (from Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :) I've
>also tacked on our boring moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The
>SWORD Project for Android". Long name but should get more search hits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Reader: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3 Bibles in
>parallel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Verse Study: When in reader mode, as the user scrolls,
>one verse will always be active, when "Verse Study" is chosen from the
>menu, the user can then drill down into that active verse. Verse Study
>has 4 tools:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Word Study: shows the verse broken down word by word,
>showing the original Greek or Hebrew behind each word, along with a
>simple definition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Commentary: shows all installed commentary for that
>verse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Witness Study: shows all available ancient New Testament
>manuscript witnesses which attest to the current verse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Variant Study: shows all variant between the manuscript
>witnesses for the current verse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Other features include very basic bookmarks and search.
>The Android release has an initial attempt at BibleSync support to send
>your current verse out to all your friends running Bishop on the same
>network (thanks Karl!).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  The initial goal of Bishop was to be the thinnest client
>on top of the bindings, as an example and thus uses no 3rd party
>libraries, save jQuery. Now that the initial release is completed and
>can serve as an example, we're free to improve the mobile user
>interface if anyone feels called to join the team and give it a shot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Installation locations follow. It's best to let Bishop
>install its basic set of SWORD modules upon first run, so it has a
>minimal set of tools it can use to operate. It will prompt you to do
>this when you first launch the application and it finds no modules
>installed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Android users can install the app from:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  iPhone users will need to send me their UDID for testing
>while we try to get through the Apple Store approval process. I haven't
>even tried yet as I don't have much hope that it is "pretty" enough for
>them, but the download link for the iPhone binary is here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop/manifest.plist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop.ipa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  The code can be had from:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  http://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Please let us know what you think if you are a user, and
>offer your suggestions from a usability perspective.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  If you are a developer, please offer comments and suggest
>features you have a desire and are willing to add.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Please give us a great rating so we show up in a search
>in the Play Store and let others know. I think we have some unique
>feature that other app don't offer and I've been using Bishop as my
>morning reader for a while now. The default fullscreen text without
>clutter is pleasant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Christ's best for you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Troy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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