[sword-devel] Xiphos not seeing eBible.org repository?
Michael Johnson
Michael at eBible.org
Thu Jun 14 17:59:05 MST 2018
Thank you, Michael. Sorry I didn't act on your prior email. I get way too much email to properly deal with it all. Anyway, since front end developers are so slow to upgrade their sword engine use, I downgraded my module generation to specify a minimum sword version of 1.7.0. The downside of this is that any recently added versification options will be ignored, but of course, they are being ignored anyway until there is widespread adoption of the latest version of the sword engine. I'm not holding my breath
waiting for that to happen, since I, too, am one of the busy (with other things) volunteers. ;-)
In the mean time, the immediate problem of the eBible.org repository being inaccessible on the front ends and platforms where it failed seems to be solved.
On 06/13/2018 12:38 PM, Michael H wrote:
> Kahunapule,
>
> I sent you an email about this about 9 months ago:
>
> The issue might be that all of the modules on ebible.org <http://ebible.org> have a minimum requirement for sword 1.7.4 in place, regardless of actual module content vs. sword engine capabilities. (I did not validate ALL, but I have tested ~20 or so modules to import them into Bibletime.) You can make modules appear by manually adjusting the minimum sword requirement in the conf file. That's what I've been doing to get ebible texts into Bibletime 2.10.
>
> It appears that Xiphos and Bibletime are properly testing the module minimum requirements against the sword engine available to them. If a module has a need for a higher sword engine, it is being excluded from the list of available texts. Since no module on ebible has a minimum sword engine 1.7.3 or lower, none are available to Xiphos or Bibletime that use that engine.
>
> ...
>
> ----Snip---
> [engKJV1769eb]
> Abbreviation=KJVD
> Description=King James Version + Apocrypha
> DataPath=./modules/texts/ztext/engKJV1769eb/
> ModDrv=zText
>
> . . . SwordVersionDate=2018-06-06 Version=26.4 History_26.4=Automatically generated on 2018-06-06 from source files dated 2017-12-21 by eBible.org (http://eBible.org) with funding through World Outreach Missions *MinimumVersion=1.7.4*Category=Biblical Texts LCSH=Bible. English. Lang=en InstallSize=4323176 OSISVersion=2.1.1 Copyright=PUBLIC DOMAIN CopyrightNotes=This work is not copyrighted. It is in the Public Domain. You may copy and publish this work freely, but you may not claim copyright on it.
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> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Gary Holmlund <gary.holmlund at gmail.com <mailto:gary.holmlund at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I will add this case:
>
> Bibletime
> 2.11.1
> 1.8.1
> Ubuntu 18.04
> PASS
>
>
> Bibletime
> 2.11.1
> 1.7.3
> Ubuntu 18.04
> Fails
>
> The pattern seems to be Sword 1.81 pass, Sword 1.7.3 fail.
>
> Based on how BibleTime failed, I would guess the issue is in Sword and how it handles languages that don't have a specific locales.d/*.conf file.
>
> Gary Holmlund
>
>
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> On 06/13/2018 11:55 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:
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> Thank you, Pierre.
>
> The two installmgr commands you suggested worked on Ubuntu 18.04. Xiphos still failed.
>
> On 06/13/2018 08:47 AM, pierre amadio wrote:
>
> Hi there !
>
> I do not have a Ubuntu 18.04 ready to try out, but you should be able to check wether the problem is within the sword library itself by trying to perform the same task with installmgr.
>
> installmgr -r eBible.org
> installmgr -ri eBible.org fraLSG1910eb
>
> If this did not work, double check if you have write permission in all the directory tree under your $SWORD_PATH directroy (i guess you have this permission ok otheryise no module would install though).
>
>
>
> On 13 June 2018 at 20:33, Michael Johnson <Michael at ebible.org <mailto:Michael at ebible.org> <mailto:Michael at ebible.org <mailto:Michael at ebible.org>>> wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a pattern in what works and what doesn't. Here is the test: install a Bible unique to eBible.org.
>
> Front end
> version
> Sword version
> OS
> Result
> Xiphos
> 4.1.0
> 1.8.1
> Windows 10
> PASS
> Xiphos
> 4.0.7
> 1.7.3
> Ubuntu 18.04
> FAIL
> Bibletime
> 2.11.1
> 1.8.1
> Windows 10
> PASS
> Bibletime
> 2.11.1
> 1.7.3
> Ubuntu 18.04
> FAIL
> Xiphos
> 4.0.4
> 1.7.3
> Ubuntu 16.04
> PASS
> Bibletime
> 2.10.1
> 1.7.3
> Ubuntu 16.04
> FAIL
> Bibletime
> 2.11.1
> ? "About" blank
> Mac OS 10.13.5
> PASS
>
>
> It looks to me like the conditions for failure are running Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver OR running Bibletime 2.10.1. Presumably the latter problem can be safely ignored, since it appears to have been fixed in the current version. However, it seems to me to be worth investigating what it is about Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver that is causing a module manager failure in both Bibletime and Xiphos. Is it the older version of the Sword engine? If so, why does that version work on the previous LTS
> version of Ubuntu?
>
> This seems to be a worthy puzzle to solve. Ubuntu LTS releases are the ones supported by UBS and SIL for Bible translation use, and the Bible translations in the eBible.org repository are frequently used as reference works by Bible translators. Not only that, but for many end users, the only Bible in their own language is in the eBible.org repository.
>
> Any clues?
>
> On 06/13/2018 12:16 AM, Robert Hunt wrote:
> > Seems I can't get either http nor ftp eBible repository on Xiphos 4.07 on Ubuntu Bionic.
> >
> > Robert.
> >
> >
> > On 13/06/18 15:36, Michael Johnson wrote:
> >> Yes, I refreshed the standard list of sources and manually refreshed eBible.org. I got a blank list.
> >>
> >> On 06/12/2018 05:14 PM, Greg Hellings wrote:
> >>> Did you go through the normal path of refreshing the standard list of sources?
> >>>
> >>> --Greg
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:03 PM Kahunapule Michael Johnson <Kahunapule at ebible.org <mailto:Kahunapule at ebible.org> <mailto:Kahunapule at ebible.org <mailto:Kahunapule at ebible.org>> <mailto:Kahunapule at ebible.org <mailto:Kahunapule at ebible.org> <mailto:Kahunapule at ebible.org <mailto:Kahunapule at ebible.org>>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just set up a new Linux (Ubuntu Bionic Beaver) system for someone, including an install of Xiphos. When trying to preload a few Bible translations, I noticed that Xiphos couldn't see the eBible.org repository. However, I can see and use it just fine from some other front ends. Is anyone else having this problem? Is there anything I can do about it, or is this something that needs to be fixed in Xiphos?
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