[sword-devel] Fwd: [LinuxUser] Any breakthroughs with Logos on Linux?

Michael H cmahte at gmail.com
Thu Feb 8 05:39:27 MST 2018


Has anybody studied whether it is possible to link ParaTExt to sword?
There's an unfilled need here for Translation teams working in windows
hostile areas (Africa/SE Asia)... they use linux to access Paratext, and
many of the resources are hard to get to link to the current verse being
worked on. The preferred method is the commercial program Logos.  However,
that program only runs in windows, and windows is not a viable OS in some
places.


Logos-Paratext syncing
https://map.bloomfire.com/posts/1251509-scrolling-logos-with-paratext-registration-difficulties




On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:14 AM, Fierbaugh, Stephen (TSC) <
stephen_fierbaugh at tsco.org> wrote:

> I believe this is actually the long term solution which is happening by
> default.  PT8 is headed in that direction anyways.  As I understand it,
> there's already an overlap in available popular resources.  Some of the
> less popular resources may never end up in PT, though.
>
> Stephen
> On 02/07/2018 10:39 PM, Brian Chapaitis wrote:
>
> So, what happens if we step "outside the box" for a solution?  I'm
> thinking that the average translator whether expat or national coworker is
> using Paratext for the core work engine in their translation project.
>
> What happens if all the resources, or at least the most important set that
> everyone wants, are simply placed into the ETEN DBL?  Then the translator
> uses the same LOGOS license to download their favorite resources directly
> into their Paratext environment... same as any other PT8 resource?  You
> download once and then you no longer need the Internet.
>
> In this manner, PT8 for Linux runs fine natively and we obviate the need
> to port Logos or whatever other engine into Linux.  The port is not going
> to happen.
>
> Is this too simplistic a solution?  Some resources would never work?  We
> could be discussing this approach with LSDev if it seemed viable enough.
>
> Blessings...   -B
>
> On 08/02/18 00:47, Stephen Fierbaugh (TSC) wrote:
>
> Logos is a wonderful and beautiful system, but it is unsuitable to the
> needs of many bandwidth-constrained projects.  We offer our FCs both the
> Logos and Folio versions, and continue to get significant numbers of
> requests for both.  I know GPS doesn't want to hear this, but I don't think
> Folio is going anywhere soon.
>
> Stephen
> On 02/07/2018 06:59 AM, David Gardner wrote:
>
> Hi Nate,
>  This is a case where a decision made years (a decade, more?) ago is still
> hurting our organisation, and I hate to think how much effort has been
> made (both from SIL and from Logos' authors) making things (un)available on
> this platform.
>
> When the move to Logos (or libronix as it was called then) was first floated,
> the company was planning to make a Linux version. I've been checking back
> every few years since and it seems that the decision is  'we've decided it's
> not commercially viable to make a version for Linux.'
>
> According to  https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=771 the last version working with WINE was Libronix 2.1c. Every version
> after says that the wine compatability score is 'garbage'.
>
> There is an online (web) version, if I read correctly that costs extra money.
> I have no idea if the web version has all the TW resources available in it.
>
> There is an Android version (64MByte download),  I have no idea if running
> that under some kind of android emulator might be a viable option.
>
> I have no idea if it needs an internet connection to function.
> I have no idea if it has all the TW resources available in it.
>
> David
>
> On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 07:52:21AM +0100, Nate wrote:
>
> Last time I checked Logos has no plans to support Linux-bases OSes. With
> Translator's Workplace based on it, and now I've learned that Le Bureau du
> Traducteur is also based on it, this seems like it will soon become a
> prerequisite before translators in my region would be willing to adopt Linux
> (Wasta or Ubuntu).
>
> I know the Wasta team has spent considerable time making Translator's
> Workplace usable in Wasta, but since it's the Folio version I'm a little
> worried about how long that will continue to be a viable solution. Can
> anyone speak to that particular issue: the long-term viability of TW-Folio?
>
> So I'd like to know if there's any movement, or hope, of making Logos work
> reliably on Linux. If anyone has any ideas or leads, I'm willing to set
> aside a little bit of time to contribute to this effort. I'm planning to
> look into it more myself, but I didn't want to dive in without first seeing
> if anyone else has experience with this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nate
>
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