[sword-devel] Release Wrapup

[Tomas Groth]

Regarding SWORD and python, I'll just leave this here:
https://gitlab.com/tgc-dk/pysword

No, it is *not* backed by anyone but me.
And no, it does not implement all the features of libSword, nor is it meant
to.

Best regards,
Tomas

Den 21/02/2017 20:52 skrev "Greg Hellings" <greg.hellings at gmail.com>:

>
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Matt Zabojnik <mattzab at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't mean to derail this in any way. I've previously only had
>> experience with HTML/PHP/SQL, and I'm now learning Python (in order to
>> develop a SWORD-related Android app)
>>
>> Would it be beneficial to port the whole project to Python? That seems to
>> be a widely known and easy to learn language.
>> Forgive my ignorance if this question is completely unreasonable. I've
>> previously only ventured into hack-together type of workaround stuff when
>> it comes to computers, rather than true programming. (Learning RegEx has
>> been an amazing eye-opening experience in module making)
>>
>
> Not likely. There is already an existing Java port, and there is little
> interest in maintaining more than the one official port. The language is
> not a significant barrier to improvement, adoption, or advancement. In
> fact, being written in decently portable C and C++ is one of the best
> technical merits of the engine. It allows us to offer bindings to Perl (for
> scripting) and Python (for BPBible and the like), and wrappers into
> Objective-C (for our Mac and iPhone apps), and into the JNI interface (for
> at least one Android app). Maintaining a pure-Java port gives access to
> other environments (Java Swing UI, web, and native Android) and could allow
> easy access to others as well (e.g. Jython, JRuby, JavaScript).
>
> If you were going to start a whole new port into a language like Python
> you would begin to open the door to format shifting the modules, and a
> whole host of other things that would be incompatible with the current
> project. Not many Python developers are going to happily attack the binary
> flat format that a Sword module currently lives in. They're going to want
> to use something else, most likely. You're going to lose out on around two
> decades of support, features, bug fixes, and small tweaks and have to start
> again to re-gain the code maturity that the engine already has. And there's
> far more you'd lose out on.
>
> No, a new port is not likely to happen within the community. Not to say it
> couldn't happen outside of the community. But you're not likely to get core
> developer support for abandoning the current library and shifting to a new
> port into a language like Python. The closest you'll probably get is forks,
> like the existing Sword++ fork. Or people who have wrapped Sword in order
> to format shift content, e.g. into a SQL database or JSON or such, for use
> in a new application.
>
> --Greg
>
>
>> I know BPBible was written mostly in Python. If I get good enough at
>> Python and have the time I may fork and develop that front-end where I can.
>> I'm still pretty green though to say the least.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:06 AM, David Haslam <dfhmch at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are we any closer to a release of SWORD v1.8 ?
>>>
>>> cf. Troy started this thread last October.
>>>
>>> As someone without any experience of C++ programming, I sometimes wonder
>>> how
>>> many C++ programmers are still active in CrossWire. It seems far, far
>>> fewer
>>> than when I first linked up with CrossWire in 2008.
>>>
>>> cf. Last month, Karl noted some anniversaries that are passing us by yet
>>> again....
>>>
>>> Which known bugs in the engine will be fixed in v1.8 ?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
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