[sword-devel] Win32 sword utilities for SWORD release 1.8.0 ?

Tom Sullivan info at beforgiven.info
Sat Dec 30 02:30:50 MST 2017


One more point from a hardcore Linux user: Module developers need to 
proofread their work. This requires producing a module, then viewing on 
a front-end. Let us please recognize that all Sword related projects 
from one end to the other strengthen the usefulness of the whole.

I support Windows (as best I can) with SwordHammer, not because I 
personally have any love for Windows or its parent, but for the sake of 
those who do use Windows. This seems a matter of common charity. Those 
who are good translators, editors, publishers, etc., should not have to 
switch operating systems or learn more IT stuff if they are not so 
inclined. Like it or not Windows is a near monopoly, and we just have to 
take the world as we find it, and help everybody as best we can.

For what it is worth.

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On 12/30/2017 04:05 AM, David Haslam wrote:
> Thanks everyone for disparaging those of us using Windows.  ;>}
> I've been building modules for years with the Win32 tools, and barely 
> encountered any problems attributable to the utility itself.
> Nearly all the problems that arise in module development are due to 
> getting things wrong in the OSIS XML or in the .conf file.
> *osis2mod.exe* just works!
> As do all the other Win32 utilities (though there are a few I've never 
> had cause to try).
> If you're a regular Windows user, and all your other useful software is 
> in Windows,
> it's just not sensible to expect folk to jump ship to Linux merely for 
> building and testing modules.
> Of course, that doesn't mean that when we submit a _fully tested module_ 
> along with its source text and .conf file
> that the Linux users in the modules team never introduce their own new 
> bugs, does it?
> Best regards,
> David
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>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Win32 sword utilities for SWORD release 1.8.0 ?
>> Local Time: 30 December 2017 7:05 AM
>> UTC Time: 30 December 2017 07:05
>> From: refdoc at gmx.net
>> To: sword-devel mailing list <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> Couple of points.
>> A casual module developer does not need any of the utilities at their 
>> most up to date as we would not accept a module, but only a source 
>> text. So, as long is the OSIS etc is right, the rest is my concern as 
>> the module upload person.
>> Someone who wants to do heavy lifting and on a regular basis should 
>> usually go a direction which is well-known to work. They should not 
>> rely on tools which are maintained with little commitment. I.e. they 
>> should use Linux. Even if someone (else) successfully learns to 
>> compile on or for Windows, this is not the same as us having a 
>> commitment to maintain Windows versions. We do not have that 
>> commitment and moaning about it does not change this.
>> For your environment, John, the simplest I can suggest would be to 
>> move the module building onto the Linux server, instead of learning to 
>> crosscompile. The way I would do that if I was tied to Windows 
>> workstations is to install the module utilities on the server and use 
>> git hooks to compile a module each time someone pushes updates to the 
>> text. This would require a move from SVN to git, but the added 
>> advantages of that would be significant anyways. I gladly can tell you 
>> more about that if you are interested.
>> Peter
>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird 
>> autocorrects.
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