[sword-devel] AbbottSmith module question

Wed Jan 13 18:42:47 MST 2016

Based on your and Karl’s reply, I’m going to move it to the experimental part of the repository.

Best I can tell, it doesn’t work because the Strong’s number isn’t zero filled and I’ve not found any support for Strong’s numbers that aren’t padded.

To rebuild the module, we have to change the Strong’s numbers from G1 to G0001, G2 to G0002 and so forth. It was a nice idea to have the Strong’s numbers and the Greek words as separate entry. It’s not practical, especially since they are fully accented.

To create a module from the TEI source (Thank you Daniel for the work you’ve put into it. I see that you are a major contributor.) one needs to cut the <entry>…</entry> out of the file into it’s own file, then run that through tei2mod. There’s a bug in all of the TEI dictionary modules where the <entry …> is not in the module, but </entry> is. tei2mod should have kept both or dropped both.

If I were to make the module, I’d use xslt to transform the xml. The one thing that I think is missing in the entry is the word. It is represented in the <orth> element, but it is not the same. I also find it odd that there is a leading <note> with the number of occurrences in the NT. I’ve not looked at the pdf to see where that came from.

In Him,
	DM

> On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Daniel Owens <dcowens76 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This module has never worked, as far as I can tell. I never was able to chase down why or convince Chris (who first put it up) to fix it. Thanks for calling attention to this, DM.
> 
> Now the source file has many corrections to the markup and data (https://github.com/translatable-exegetical-tools/Abbott-Smith/blob/master/abbott-smith.tei.xml). So I suggest a new module needs to be made.
> 
> However, it has been a long time since I have been able to successfully compile and test a TEI module. If someone has time and expertise to do this, I would be grateful because the TEI lexicon module creation cycle is a series of mysteries to me.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> On 1/14/16 7:53 AM, DM Smith wrote:
>> Well, I’ve created a new Windows 7 VM and installed the KJV and also AbbottSmith using The SWORD Project for Windows (BibleCS) Install Manager. I’m not able to get the module to work in BibleCS.
>> 
>> As far as I can tell it loads but doesn’t work in Xiphos. I show Strong’s in the KJV. Click on a number, any number and I get the same entry. As far as I can tell it is the last entry. Once I get there, clicking the up and down arrows on the dictionary will make the program crash. (I can deliberately, reliably repeat the crash.) The dropdown list contains >, G1, G1, G1, …., which is wrong. If I manually search for a number by prefixing it with a G, I’ll get the entry, indicating it is linked.
>> 
>> I’m running the Windows version that I just downloaded from the xiphos.org <http://xiphos.org> site.
>> 
>> In Him,
>> DM
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 6:29 PM, Peter Von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have just now installed it on Xiphos and set up as my strong dictionary for NT. It works perfectly well as far as I can tell
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2016 um 20:16 Uhr
>>>> Von: "DM Smith" <dmsmith at crosswire.org <mailto:dmsmith at crosswire.org>>
>>>> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org <mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org>>
>>>> Betreff: [sword-devel] AbbottSmith module question
>>>> 
>>>> The AbbottSmith module has excellent content. I’m having some problems getting it to work in any SWORD or a JSword front-end (due to bugs in JSword).
>>>> 
>>>> I’m wondering how it is supposed to work in a SWORD front-end.
>>>> 
>>>> It is keyed to Strong’s numbers. Each Strong’s number begins with the letter G and is followed by the number, but not padded. These are sorted as:
>>>> *blank key*
>>>>> 
>>>> G1
>>>> G10
>>>> G100
>>>> G1000
>>>> G1001
>>>> ….
>>>> G2
>>>> G20
>>>> G200
>>>> ….
>>>> and so forth.
>>>> 
>>>> (The first two entries in the modules are bugs, probably in the module making utility. But that is another issue.)
>>>> 
>>>> Each of these entries is linked to the entry for the corresponding Greek word. These are fully accented words. In the index they are sorted according to their upper case representation. They follow the entries beginning with G.
>>>> 
>>>> In my Windows VM, I’m not able to get the KJV to show up in either Xiphos or The SWORD Project for Windows. (Others have reported this problem. And I’m not interested in “going there.”) As such I can’t determine if I were to use AbbottSmith as a Greek Strong’s Dictionary how it would or if it’d work.
>>>> 
>>>> In Him,
>>>> DM Smith
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