[sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

Chris Burrell chris at burrell.me.uk
Tue Feb 12 06:37:44 MST 2013


So any chance we can include something? I really need this, and I don't see
why the conf files isn't the ideal place to put this?


On 8 February 2013 20:40, Chris Burrell <chris at burrell.me.uk> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Because I provide Interlinears, I need to be able to tell the user that
> for the combination of LXX and KJV you are unable to see the interlinears
> in the OT. The reason being, KJV uses Hxxxx and LXX uses Gxxxx. If you're
> looking at several texts in interlinears, it simply looks like there is a
> bug, because one of the lines is blank. The knowledge would enable me to
> prevent users and warn them, that the functionality is unavailable.
>
> (extended Greek: I was under the impression that someone added Greek
> Strong numbers to cater for the ones that are only present in the OT and
> therefore not part of the original set that Mr Strong originally did.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On 8 February 2013 20:37, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>
>> For OSIS, the only values to indicate Strong's Numbers are:
>> GlobalOptionFilter=OSISStrongs
>> and
>> Feature=StrongsNumbers
>>
>> There is nothing defined to further distinguish.
>>
>> BTW, what is extended Greek? Are you referring to the TVM codes that look
>> like Strong's Number with a G prefix?
>>
>> I guess what we need is to understand how you'd use the knowledge in a
>> program.
>>
>> In Him,
>> DM
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Chris Burrell <chris at burrell.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, that does clarify. Still the problem remains in that we want to
>> be able to distinguish between different types of tagging (greek, hebrew,
>> extended greek) by questioning the module. Does the conf file not also
>> define supported features? Can we not make it so? Or have a flag in there
>> to indicate the Strongs tagging is abnormal/Septuagint (i.e. Greek tags in
>> the OT)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 February 2013 20:11, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>
>>> In SWORD the various GlobalOptionFilter values indicate to the SWORD
>>> engine which pieces of code (filters) to enable. Same with some other
>>> entries in the conf.
>>>
>>> In JSword, we don't have a filter architecture. We convert everything
>>> from the source type (ThML, Plaintext, GBF, ...) to OSIS. Then we use xslt
>>> to transform that into HTML. The xslt is passed what the user would like to
>>> see or not see. It doesn't really matter (so far) what is set in the
>>> module's conf.
>>>
>>> This has one problem. Regarding Headings (aka Titles). They should
>>> always show in a commentary, as they should all be assumed to be canonical
>>> (properly part of the module) unless marked non-canonical.
>>>
>>> Hope this clarifies.
>>>
>>> In Him,
>>> DM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Chris Burrell <chris at burrell.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps in Sword-terms a property isn't a statement of what's there,
>>> however JSword does seem to read it and give the front-end information
>>> about whether an option is available in the module or not...
>>>
>>> Maybe I misunderstand something?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 February 2013 15:12, David Haslam <dfhmch at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Our three Finnish modules do not have Strong's numbers.
>>>>
>>>> The conf files do not include GlobalOptionFilter=OSISStrongs, yet the
>>>> pseudo-markup in the source text files
>>>> (from an /ad hoc/ workaround to provide the original verse references
>>>> from
>>>> an Av11n translation)
>>>> get interpreted as if they were Strongs!!!
>>>>
>>>> The engine still parses the text, and displays these tags, despite the
>>>> fact
>>>> that they can't be hidden by a filter.
>>>>
>>>> A filter property in a conf file is just that! It tells the engine what
>>>> to
>>>> do when asked.
>>>> It's not a statement about what's there.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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