[sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

[Peter von Kaehne]

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> Datum: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:35:30 -0500
> Von: Andrew Thule <thulester at gmail.com>
> An: "SWORD Developers\' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD	translations)

> Peter, I assume you understand the difference between intellectual
> property
> and copyright.  I also assume you understand the 'derivative work'
> principles of 'fair use' and 'transformativeness'.
> 
> Within science and academia, authors may cite other authors work without
> permission as long as they provide credit (hence the whole business of
> citations) else science and common bodies of knowledge would not progress
> for the sake of humanity.  This is also why copyrighting 'science' or
> 'academic results' is generally frowned upon.
> 
> The Dead Sea scrolls are not themselves copyrightable.  Their
> translations,
> being the product of largly publically funded academic work, falls under
> the category of intellectual property.  As long as I cite who did the
> original translation and transform the work significantly from its
> originally published form (which I've done) I'm well within 'fair use'
> however much you protest.  Moreover, when 'fair use' is for academic or
> scientific purposes, rather than commercial purposes, the court err on the
> side of free and open.
> 
> Besides, you're not being any kind of spoil sport since you're entitled to
> your opinion and I'm really nor seeking your permission to do anything. 
> My
> offer is open to the community.
> 
> With the greatest respect.
> ~A
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> 
> > On 07/11/12 15:52, Andrew Thule wrote:
> >
> >> It is a derivative work from academic translations, but for now treat
> as
> >> copyrighted, until I resolve the license issue.  With the exception of
> >> Elisha Qimron's translations (by the Israeli Supreme Court no less),
> all
> >> other DSS translations are treated as academic or scientific knowledge,
> >> and so free for use, subject to citation.
> >>
> >
> > I hate being a spoilsport (and I think I get form in that...), but I do
> > not think this will cut it. What is "academic" in these circumstances?
> > Unless the country the translations have been made somehow PDs all
> produce
> > by publicly funded universities (unlikely, TBH) then these texts will be
> > subject to the ordinary rules as usual - no publication unless
> permissions
> > are obtained.
> >
> > Now, I think it would be great to gain permission, and academic sources
> > are often very kind + generous with these, but please be careful not to
> > assume.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
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