[sword-devel] OSIS example

[Daniel Owens]

Gosh, that would explain a few things. :) My shell script creating the 
zipped module was faulty. I fixed that AND tested it in another SWORD 
installation, so the module at 
https://sites.google.com/site/danielowensstuff/Home/test.zip?attredirects=0&d=1 
should now work. I apologize for the hasty upload.

Daniel

On 03/04/2012 05:36 PM, DM Smith wrote:
> Daniel,
> I downloaded the module from the link you provided, but it was missing some files. It only had the vss files (index files) and no data files.
> DM
>
> On Mar 4, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>
>> That is wonderful news. I have not been updating to the nightly build for awhile, so I downloaded the latest, but the test module does not display at all. I am not sure what to make of that, but it is a rather unorthodox module in that it only has a little bit of content.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On 03/04/2012 04:32 PM, DM Smith wrote:
>>> The next release of Bible Desktop supports/displays book and chapter introductions. It is available now as a nightly build. How well the nightly build works on any given day is possibly broken.
>>>
>>> AndBible will probably support it once JSword is released.
>>>
>>> -- DM
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did some testing of several of the major front-ends (sorry, I do not have a Mac or iPhone). I posted the results at http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles/BSPExample#Level_of_Support_by_Front-ends.
>>>>
>>>> Overall feature support is strongest in BPBible, followed by BibleTime and Xiphos tied for second. Then comes BibleCS, BibleDesktop, and AndBible.
>>>>
>>>> That can partly be explained by the fact that BibleDesktop and AndBible do not display book introductions (that is a reasonable choice for AndBible). However, both support parallel titles (for synoptic passages in the Gospels) and canonical psalm titles (as does BPBible). But BibleTime, Xiphos, and BibleCS simply do not display the text of Canonical psalm titles. That is a severe bug.
>>>>
>>>> As a novice module creator several years ago, this diversity almost drove me crazy. I guess now at least module creators can know what features are likely to work well, but it would be nice if front-ends worked on supporting some of these features, even if the text is passed through as plain text, such as canonical psalm titles. Nothing like that should be omitted, even if the display is not anything special.
>>>>
>>>> One last note, variants do not work correctly in any front-end, which tells me the markup is not right. If anyone can provide a correction to the markup, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On 03/04/2012 01:18 PM, Patrick Zimmermann wrote:
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>> this is great news. Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the rendering produced by xiphos or bibletime is at least some sort of
>>>>> acceptable I'll change the module I'm developing at the moment to use the
>>>>> syntax. Mostly additions, removals and alternatives are affected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, 4. March 2012 01:59:15 Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>>>> Based on varied sources, including Patrick's helpful example OSIS Bible,
>>>>>> I put together an example OSIS "Bible" that validates and is consistent
>>>>>> with the wiki page on OSIS Bibles (
>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles). The text itself is mostly
>>>>>> KJV text, with a little Hebrew to illustrate more than what the KJV can
>>>>>> by itself. I chose to use the BSP structure because the KJV illustrates
>>>>>> the BCV structure well already, and I have no idea idea how to deal with
>>>>>> paragraphs and poetry in the BCV structure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find the example file and the following list of features at
>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles/BSPExample:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - BookGroup and section titles, including parallel passages:<title>
>>>>>> - Book introduction
>>>>>> - List:<list>,<item>
>>>>>> - Table:<table>,<row>,<cell>
>>>>>> - Bold and italic text:<hi>
>>>>>> - Strong's numbers, lemma, and morphology:<w>, @lemma, @morph
>>>>>> - Notes, including study notes and cross-references:<note>,<reference>
>>>>>> - Marked additions:<transChange>
>>>>>> - Canonical title (Psalms):<title type="psalm" canonical="true">
>>>>>> - Poetry markup:<lg>,<l>
>>>>>> - Divine Name:<seg>,<divineName>
>>>>>> - Variants:<seg type="x-variant" subType="x-1">
>>>>>> - Abbreviations:<abbr>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I compiled and tested the module, and I will send a separate email when
>>>>>> I have a chance to record the results systematically. Suffice it to say,
>>>>>> no one front-end supports all of the markup well, and some features
>>>>>> (such as variants and tables) are conspicuously poorly supported. Since
>>>>>> it is not a complete text of the KJV, some odd display issues should be
>>>>>> ignored, but most front-ends displayed the "New Testament" title at the
>>>>>> bottom of Psalm 3. It would be lovely if front-end developers would see
>>>>>> how their front-end handles it (or doesn't). I can send a compiled
>>>>>> module to those who are interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feedback is welcome. If I have missed something or used less-than-ideal
>>>>>> markup, please let me know, and we can change it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
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