[sword-devel] preverse divs

Thu Mar 1 14:00:12 MST 2012

Hey,

this is great to hear, thank you!

if you want to have a look at what I put together:
https://gitorious.org/offene-bibel-converter/osis-showcase-module

It contains a bible and a commentary. A module is created with make.sh.

When compiled to a sword module several issues show up though, as I have 
already said.

@Troy:
Your mail Daniel replied to did not make it to my inbox. Where did you send 
that mail to?

Patrick

On Thursday, 1. March 2012 21:38:51 Daniel Owens wrote:
> Hmmm, that sounds like a tantalizing assignment, that is, if developers
> pay attention. :)
> 
> Such a document would need to have excerpts from various parts of the
> Bible, including especially the Psalms and the Gospels since between
> them several of the odd markup issues show up. If someone were to
> generate that, module developers would rise up and call us blessed only
> if the markup was rendered as expected.
> 
> I may take a stab at it.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> On 03/01/2012 02:18 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > Patrick,
> > 
> > Well, the KJV2003 project would have been my idea fore best practices
> > markup for OSIS, but it now lives at the KJV2006 and I would guess now
> > represents DM's idea of best practices for OSIS markup :)
> > 
> > The tutorials also were meant to iterate the most used features of
> > OSIS to give an example of best practice markup for that feature.  We
> > should include a link to a concise, representative, validating OSIS
> > document which includes all of these features.
> > 
> > Anyone up for the task?
> > 
> > Troy
> > 
> > On 02/29/2012 07:23 PM, Patrick Zimmermann wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, 29. February 2012 15:29:31 Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> >>> On 02/29/2012 01:21 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> >>>> Ok,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Just my 2p to the matter:
> >>>> 
> >>>> There are several versions of osis2mod about which produce different
> >>>> results.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I learned the hard way that other than by adding x-preverse to most
> >>>> titles etc things do NOT work.
> >>> 
> >>> Dear Peter,
> >>> 
> >>> If you ever find that you need to manually add x-preverse to your OSIS
> >>> text before importing then a bug should be raised either here or in
> >>> jira
> >>> about what standard OSIS markup doesn't get imported correctly via
> >>> osis2mod.
> >>> 
> >>> I realize often you just need to get something to work quickly, but
> >>> this
> >>> doesn't help us solve the core problem moving forward.
> >>> 
> >>> The clear specification is OSIS.  You should never need to add any
> >>> custom tags to your document.  Again, that's the goal in a perfect
> >>> world.  I believe we have somewhere a 'best practices' document for
> >>> OSIS
> >>> markup which is know to work with osis2mod.
> >> 
> >> Hello Troy,
> >> 
> >> Do you know where that 'best practices' document is? I have been eagerly
> >> searching for one in vain some time ago. I thus started my own
> >> showcase OSIS
> >> module which produces terrible output for much of the syntax it tries
> >> to show.
> >> If there is such a document already, I can gladly throw my miserable
> >> approach
> >> away.
> >> 
> >> Patrick
> >> 
> >>> We have about 5 OSIS
> >>> tutorials floating around and I'm not sure what state they are all in,
> >>> but they should probably be clean up to give you what you ask for
> >>> below,
> >>> 'a clear specification to work to'.
> >>> 
> >>> http://crosswire.org/osis/tutor.jsp
> >>> http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Tutorial
> >>> http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles
> >>> http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Commentaries
> >>> http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Genbooks
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Troy
> >>> 
> >>>> But recently things have become more broken and it has become a
> >>>> mess to
> >>>> figure out.
> >>>> 
> >>>> It is not all engine as modules produced in different times have
> >>>> different level of "properness".
> >>>> 
> >>>> It would be great if we as module makers had a clear specification to
> >>>> work to - whatever that is - and then could dump the module into
> >>>> osis2mod and get a working module.
> >>>> 
> >>>> At the moment we do not.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Peter
> >>>> 
> >>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Datum: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:39:19 +0100
> >>>>> Von: "Troy A. Griffitts"<scribe at crosswire.org>
> >>>>> An: SWORD Developers\' Collaboration Forum<sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> >>>>> Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I don't know what's wrong except what I noted in the previous
> >>>>> post: that
> >>>>> there is something wrong.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I want to clear up one thing that seems to be a general
> >>>>> misunderstanding:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Module makers should never care or know about x-preverse.
> >>>>> They should make their module how they think best conforms to the
> >>>>> OSIS
> >>>>> specification.
> >>>>> osis2mod will add the x-preverse div to the section it things
> >>>>> should be
> >>>>> associated with a verse but display before the verse marker.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> .... in a perfect world anyway.  That's the goal, at least, and
> >>>>> depending on who's reverted whom's revert, it might work that way
> >>>>> now.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On 02/29/2012 11:09 AM, David Haslam wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Troy,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I just tried wrapping the first "section title" for Matt.1.1 as
> >>>>>> follows:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> <div type="section">
> >>>>>> <div type="x-milestone" subType="x-preverse" sID="pv1"/>
> >>>>>> <title>Lignez Jezuz</title>
> >>>>>> <div type="x-milestone" subType="x-preverse" eID="pv1"/>
> >>>>>> <verse sID="Matt.1.1" osisID="Matt.1.1"/>
> >>>>>> Levr lignez Jezuz-Krist, Mab David, Mab Abraham.
> >>>>>> <verse eID="Matt.1.1"/>
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> After rebuilding the module, the title "Lignez Jezuz" had
> >>>>>> disappeared
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> when
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> viewed with *Xiphos 3.1.5* (in Windows).  In its place there
> >>>>>> seemed to
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> be an
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> extra space.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> It was there before, albeit displayed after the verse tag.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So what's wrong?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> cf. In *BibleDesktop 1.6*, the same title is still displayed, and
> >>>>>> still
> >>>>>> after the verse tag and a line break.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> The phrase "not yet supported" seems to be a considerable
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> understatement.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> David
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> View this message in context:
> >>>>> http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/preverse-divs-tp4429131p4431114
> >>>>> .ht
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ml
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> >>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> >>>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> >>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> >>>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
> >>> 
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> >>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> >>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel at crosswire.org
> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page