[sword-devel] [jsword-devel] Stem searching

[Arthur Bolstad]

Can you (someone) move that explanation of searching methods to the help
file for sword?

art bolstad

On 7/11/2012 9:24 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Sorry for all the typos last night. Was running on coffee.
>
> So, I spent a little time this afternoon adding in the index field
> discussed in this message.  It's committed in SVN.  You'll need to
> rebuild your indexes on a module to take advantage of it.  Nothing
> should be disturbed if you don't, but you won't have the new field
> available.
>
> The field is called 'morph'.  You can see it in action on swordweb:
>
> http://crosswire.org/study/parallelstudy.jsp
>
> At the top, under 'Presets' click 'NT Scholar'
>
> Click on any word in KJV, TR, or Tregelles.
>
> You'll notice a few new options now.  You can search for the lemma
> with any morphology-- how things have worked for a long time.
> Or you can now search for the lemma with the same morphology as the
> word you clicked-- this uses the new morph index field.
>
> Once you've done a search, you can see the search string that was
> built and can play around with ? and * on the morph, or any of the
> other lucene functions you find here:
>
> http://lucene.apache.org/core/3_6_0/queryparsersyntax.html
>
> One caveat: '-' is common in Robinson's morph codes and needs to be
> escaped; it means 'without' in lucene search syntax.  bummer.
>
> Have fun, let me know what you think.
>
> Troy
>
>
> On 07/11/2012 03:17 AM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>> Please let me know if there is anything non- or semi-technical I can
>> do (testing, etc.) to help with this. I was surprised to learn that
>> BW (and Logos 4, I would add) uses such arcane syntax, but it really
>> is powerful once you learn it. I wonder how many users simply do not
>> make use of the powerful tools at their fingertips because they are
>> intimidated by the syntax. The only person I know who uses this to
>> great effect is a PHP programmer with a computer science degree...
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On 07/10/2012 05:09 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> We're toyed around with the best way to add lemma+morph searching in
>>> SWORD but haven't finalized anything yet.
>>>
>>> Indexing Morphology codes won't helps.  This would give you 2 fields
>>> which need to be used together.
>>>
>>> For example, if you wish to find λογος only in the nominative within
>>> 3 words of any present, active, indicative, 2 persons singular or
>>> plural verb, you could not satisfy your search.
>>>
>>> Believe it or not, end users of tools like Bibleworks seem quite
>>> happy to learn odd syntax like:
>>>
>>>
>>> "λογος@* *@PAI2?"~3
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course GUI tools to help build that syntax for them is also desired.
>>>
>>> This it the direction we're heading, but would require lemma
>>> encoding changed from strongs to lexical form.
>>>
>>> Presently we could nearly obtain this by building an index as (from
>>> the start of John 1.1):
>>>
>>> G1722 at PREP G746 at N-DSF G2258 at V-IXI-3S
>>>
>>> But this would require users to know strongs numbers rather than
>>> lexical form, which would almost certainly need a GUI to help them
>>> build the search syntax.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/10/2012 11:41 PM, Chris Burrell wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know/tried some kind of stem search with JSword? Is it
>>>> implemented? Or would we need to do a bit more work there?
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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