[sword-devel] Ubuntu 12.04 ....

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Not disputing the long term desire to not build against deprecated API 
methods (that's why we deprecate), and I certainly understand the policy 
to not release Bibletime until it is not using any deprecated methods of 
the most recent SWORD library, but I can't see how it is useful to cause 
Bibletime to fail building for an end user once it is released.

If
Bibletime x.y.z is released which enforces this policy against
SWORD a.b.c and we subsequently release
SWORD a.b.d which is binary compatible with a.b but which adds 
deprecation notices to additional method, then Bibletime x.y is 
violating the policy and won't build for any user who simply wants to 
upgrade their SWORD engine.

Could the check be added as a developer build option, so you can still 
enforce it inhouse, but it wouldn't be forced on the end users?

Just a thought.

Troy



On 04/23/2012 03:14 PM, Greg Hellings wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Troy A. Griffitts<scribe at crosswire.org>  wrote:
>> Not disputing any of this, but I'm curious why BT can't compile against SVN.
>>   I don't believe we've intentionally made any API interface changes in a
>> while, and we try our hardest to be backward compatible.  If you let me
>> know, I can have a look at what we broke.
>>
>
> BibleTime will not compile against a deprecated API and there is one
> place where you've deprecated a method in favor of its new camel-cased
> version. We maintain a git branch with the necessary updates, but we
> don't want to release that branch as it would break compat with the
> current released SWORD (which is what we package on Windows and Mac).
>
> The refusal to build against deprecated APIs is a policy choice
> selected by Jaak which the rest of the developers agreed was
> desirable.
>
> --Greg
>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> On 04/23/2012 02:49 PM, Greg Hellings wrote:
>>>
>>> Xiphos 3.1.5 requires SWORD SVN. In the Crosswire Ubuntu PPA current
>>> SVN of SWORD is named libsword9.
>>>
>>> BibleTime 2.9.1 cannot be built against SWORD SVN but only against
>>> SWORD 1.6.2. In Ubuntu's current release this version of SWORD is
>>> named libsword8.
>>>
>>> There is a branch in BibleTime's git repository which allows it to be
>>> built against SWORD's SVN, but because of API changes since then our
>>> current trunk cannot be built. BibleTime will not release a version
>>> which is incompatible with the current SWORD release and that is why
>>> we requested that Troy cut a new release of SWORD. Once SWORD 1.7
>>> (libsword9 in Ubuntu/Debian parlance) is released the next version of
>>> BibleTime released after that will be compatible with the new API and
>>> will therefore require libsword9.
>>>
>>> If you want to get more to the bottom of it, try providing Dmitrijs
>>> with the information he specified, but it sounds like you are drawing
>>> the official Ubuntu package of BibleTime and the PPA package of Xiphos
>>> to get the conflict you indicated.
>>>
>>> --Greg
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Barry Drake<bdrake at crosswire.org>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 23/04/12 12:11, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> do not mix PPAs with official archive.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I understand that.  What I'm doing is reporting that there is a problem
>>>> in
>>>> the packages held in Ubuntu 12.04 repo.  I'm asking whoever is
>>>> responsible
>>>> for submissions to Ubuntu to get things up to date as soon as possible.
>>>>   I
>>>> know the official packages are OK but 12.04 is released on Thursday of
>>>> this
>>>> week so I'm doing some final testing!  The new user of 12.04 is NOT going
>>>> to
>>>> look for the official ppa but will simply use Ubuntu Software Centre -
>>>> and
>>>> get the conflict.
>>>>
>>>> God bless,        Barry.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> http://ubuntuadverts.org/
>>>>
>>>>
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