[sword-devel] Shorter book name abbreviations

Jonathan Morgan jonmmorgan at gmail.com
Sun Sep 19 08:03:54 MST 2010


Hi Greg,

While I could implement such a system, I struggle to see that it's high
enough priority to bother.  As a generalisation I'm not very keen on working
on configurability and special options, because I strongly suspect that most
people don't use them (I certainly don't if I can avoid it), and I know of
problems which affect every user rather than a small sub-set and so are
probably more important.  [which is not to ignore the problem and its
solution, just to minimise it :) ].

Jon

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com>wrote:

> I was suggesting that in your application's settings you could provide
> a "customize book abbreviations" mechanism to the user, so they
> wouldn't have to locate the files and manually edit them.
>
> I don't see a problem with the 2 letter ones, as long as they are
> clearly obvious as to what they are.  Philippians and Philemon, for
> example, I don't think ought to be given default 2 letter
> abbreviations.  While "Ph" usually means Philippians and "Phil" means
> Philemon, usually don't remember Philippian's existence when I'm
> quickly abbreviating Philemon as "Ph".
>
> Thus, if you allow the user to edit the abbreviations through the
> application, then they can select "P" to mean Philemon if they use
> that book frequently or "N" to be Nehemiah.  It could also solve this
> user's problem directly by allowing him to provide his own set of
> 2-character abbreviations.
>
> --Greg
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Jonathan Morgan <jonmmorgan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > They are plain text files, so it is certainly possible to edit them.
> > However, anything that is editable will probably not be edited by very
> many
> > people, so I think it is important to get the defaults "right".  The
> > questions are more "Does anyone think that these kind of two character
> > abbreviations make sense to be included by default?" and "Can anyone see
> any
> > major problems with using these kind of two character abbreviations?"
> >
> > BTW, the standard English locale seems to already have some one letter
> > abbreviations, such as "N" for "Numbers" and "P" for "Psalms".
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Book abbreviations are part of the translations of SWORD, are they
> >> not?  If they are, it should be relatively easy to allow users to edit
> >> and add them to their heart's content by providing a programmatic
> >> method to allow them to edit the localization files.  That would allow
> >> the user to set their own two or even one character abbreviations if
> >> they wanted.
> >>
> >> Of course, I could be wildly mistaken in that.
> >>
> >> --Greg
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Jonathan Morgan <jonmmorgan at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > We have received a request that all books have 2 letter abbreviations,
> >> > like
> >> > Luke does (Lk).  Full text below:
> >> >
> >> > "Sometimes I do a lot of searches, and it would also be faster if the
> >> > abbreviations for books were reduced to 2 consonants, like rv for
> >> > Revelation
> >> > or rm for Romans, rather than rom. Most are only two, like like for
> >> > Luke,
> >> > but for some reason others are not."
> >> >
> >> > I can't think off hand of any problems with this other than the
> >> > increased
> >> > potential for collisions and multiple abbreviations being used for the
> >> > same
> >> > book name.  What do others think.  Is this a good idea or a bad idea?
> >> >
> >> > Jon
> >> >
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